Grandsons in the workshop:: Continued.. #1: more humor and old time tools and safety

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Blog entry by oldguy2 posted 12-09-2016 01:43 PM 1040 reads 0 times favorited 4 comments Add to Favorites Watch
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I changed the profile photo. And the nickname ..oldguy2…is in reference to my good friend who also owned a Shopsmith and we went to 2 classes at the Factory in Dayton. Since I moved I don’t get to see him as much and poor fellow he moved to a condo and had to sell a 520 and accessories. Someone got a great buy, Not even 10 years old.
I think I look more like my father in the photo, I am 64. Oooch. wisdom hairs the lady cutter calls them. BS.
I think the nickname is right. Oldguy.
So grandsons visiting for the first time, a six year old and a 4 year old with his Dad and want to pound nails and drill holes. Now they have seen me in the shop when they skype call from Arizona…that part of technology I love. And I have drilled some stuff and made a pocket hole and put two boards together. But we usually travel there. First lesson the son in law who knows about building asks do you have any nails, maybe paneling nails? I said no, moving here I unloaded almost all that and use screws ( I live in the parsonage, not going to panel and change too much ) but I had some 3 inch common nails. He was not pleased why those? Trust me they will hit the head better and not our fingers and have a blast. And that was perfect, the great workbench took a pounding and so did the nails. Rob was pleased. Next was holes. I have a craftsman brace and old spur bits. Now they look strange, a hook shape on one side of the point and a chisel edge on the other side and a small screw point. Get some and try it, they scribe the hole and then they start shaving the fibers as you circle. real nice flat bottom holes, cut like a bandit. And so with board in vise and 6 year old cranking away, I steadied the end. He cut a hole in no time. And time for another. Then another bit, few holes and another bit. I still have the board and nails and the board and holes. I don’t think the kids will get here soon, Memories. I keep hearing from people about their grand kids always at their home and they are watching the kids. I would not want to be everyday the baby sitter and I have the worse opposite end of seeing them once a year. LIke a teacher day planning something to do with them every minute is a long long day. Wait until they are 7 or 8 and you get to see the school play, I get to see pictures. I might get a one a week skype call or a phone call and ask how are the kids or the grand kids have more to tell me. I don’t know who has it worse. In my projects are an old fashion top and name signs I made them so they could go into suitcases on airplanes when they were here last year. Yup granddaddy made that for me.

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#1 posted 12-09-2016 03:46 PM

Hey OG2,

I’m only about 5 years younger than you, and I don’t have any grandchildren. Instead, I have little children at home.

So, it’s different. I don’t have any time to go to the shop. When I get home from work, my wife is ready for a break, which means I’m the parent on duty for awhile. By the time I can get a moment, I’m too tired to do anything.

The 4-year-old has his own set of Peltor JR earmuffs. When we go to the shop, he asks “are you going to make some loud noise?” I say “no, I’m just piddling around with hand planes”. He says “Yes. Do please make some loud noise.” There are two pair of earmuffs in the Christmas closet for the 2-year-old twins this year, but I can’t imagine trying to keep my eyes on more than one child and do anything with power tools. Maybe when they get a little older.

The 4-y-o has drilled one hole with the brace and bit some months ago. I have some regular auger bits made for brace. I’m not sure of the type of bit you are talking about. Can you post a photo?


-- I intended to be a woodworker, but turned into a tool and lumber collector.

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#2 posted 12-09-2016 04:30 PM

Thanks for reading. Drill bits. I want you to google ..woodworking spur bits….down the list is the rennaissance woodworker and a description for his drill bits 170..something… and right on that page is a photo of 7 of these bits. very clear the two different cuts, one side and the chisel like other side. surprised I found it. These were my wife grandfathers and I never met him but he made some nice furniture in walnut. Kids it may get easier, or think of a small task for them. I told mine to stay on the stool so I could cut something and he was off it in seconds. That got a face to face talk. Guess I got into a rant there about not seeing my grandkids.

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#3 posted 12-10-2016 09:49 PM

Wonderful activity

-- Norman - I never never make a mistake, I just change the design.

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#4 posted 01-29-2017 05:17 PM

I keep five pounds of 1-3/8 box nails on hand in an old coffee can for kids to pound into 2×4 scraps. Needle nose pliers to hold the nails. PVC pipe is fun for them to cut with a hand saw. A block plane and 1/2 inch pine boards to plane. They love the brace and bit. Have fun with your grand kids and all their friends. Shop activities are great for them. I have a tool cabinet with tools and supplies for my grand kids and their friends.

-- K. Stone “Tell me and I forget, teach me and I may remember, involve me and I learn.” ― Benjamin Franklin

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