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Most recent video tour on 8/25/13.

Update my workshop with some felder equipment in 9/12

There are a few things I’ve done that I really like and I would do over again. And a few things I would do differently. I guess this is the forum to share the good, the bad, and the ugly. Most of the ideas listed below were developed while I was working in a 2 car garage. I was fortunate enough to build a larger garage and incorporate many of the ideas. Setting up a shop is more of a continuous journey and not a discrete event. I’ll never be done. There is always something else I need (want) and something I need to sell.

The pics can be seen at “my workshop”

The good -

Position the saws, planer, jointer, shaper so the outfeed is in front of the garage door and you won’t lose valuable working space.. I realize this only works when the weather is nice and you have a large garage door to point them at.

Make a covered patio and supply electricity to it. It’s nice to work outside in the shade and it’s healthier too. Clean-up is easy with a leaf blower.

Put skylights in the shop to let in natural light. Supplement with a lot of T8 florescent lights

Make dedicated cabinets to hold items. e.g. plane cabinet, sanding cabinet, drill cabinet. ...

Learn how to make customized dust collection fittings. it will save you a bunch of money.

Mount your dust collector and compressor outside (if possible). They take up floor space and are noisy.

Put dust collection floor sweeps in the corners and blow the dust from one end of the shop to the other.

Plumb in a lot of electrical outlets (inside and outside) and install airlines to get to the major areas.

If you have both a radial arm saw and the miter saw build them on the same platform to reduce space.

Put equipment on good castors to move it easily.

The bad (what I regret):

I wish I would have put the dust collection piping and some electrical outlets in the floor. It would look nicer and be safer to work around.

Don’t install too many windows because they take up valuable wall space.

I would consider having a wood floor because it would be more comfortable than standing on concrete. I don’t have any experience with wood floors and I’m not sure they would withstand the weight of some of my tools.

I wish I would have purchased a 3 phase rotary converter and purchased 3 phase equipment. I believe three phase is less expensive and better than single phase. Higher end equipment is made with three phase power and it can be cheaper than single phase.

I made an office that I really don’t use. I would rather have the shop floor space.

Before I acquired some of the bigger tools there was enough room to park a car in the shop. Now I regret allowing a car there because my wife thinks it’s her parking space.

The ugly:

Don’t use the rubber flooring that I used. It shows all tracks and never looks good. I would use epoxy with sand next time.

I hope this helps.

Made some dust collection fittings. Dust collection on jds Multi router before video

After video

Installing the Clearview 1800 in my new shop.
I have a 20’ x 30’ 2×4 framed shop that has insulated & finished walls and ceiling.

The DC is mounted in the corner of the shop to a wall with foam isolation pads to help dampen the noise from the motor transmitting to the wall. I’m using 7” spiral trunk with 6” drops.

Standing 6’ away the noise from an Iphone app was 93db without a trashcan or any ducting.

A 10’-3” high closet was built around the unit. The walls consist of staggered 2×4’s with Roxul safe and sound between the studs. The inside of the room was finished with 1/2” sound board and 1/2” drywall. The outside of the room was finished with 1/2” soundboard and 3/4” grade A birch plywood.

The door is 37” wide and 10’-3’ tall. It’s made the same as the walls except to make it lighter I didn’t put the drywall on the inside. But, some left over Styrofoam was applied (I didn’t notice any difference in sound when I applied the styrafoam).

The sealing surface of the door has 3/16” thick x 1.25” wide rubber insulation.

The ceiling was built with 2×4’s with roxul and soundboard. The motor is cooled from filtered air exiting the ceiling. I put some styrofoam near the motor but not completely surrounding it to try to reduce the sound. I don’t think it had much affect.

Approx 8’ of 8” diameter R8 ducting vents filtered air to the shop and acts as a muffler. The 8” diam outlet isn’t big enough for the air to escape so the room is pressurized. to help reduce the pressure, another 4” diameter outlet was added near the floor. I can still feel quite a bit of air escape in the .25” gap under the door.

The sound measures 73 to 74 db without any blast gates installed.

With the blast gates installed and the bottom of the door sealed the system produces 64 db (with one blast gate open). I’m happy, happy, happy. I can actually hear the stereo playing with the duct collector on. It made a big difference once the piping was completed.

Some pics are below.

As a side note, I installed another CV at my other shop and used 6” S&D pvc. The PCV is WAY easier to work with and is a much cleaner install (IMHO). I’ll never use metal again. I estimate that it has taken me 10x longer to cut/fit/seal the metal.

The closet

The wall (note: the white strip is a rubber gasket to seal the door when it’s closes)

the ceiling

The Shop

-- Sorry the reply is so long. I didn't have time to write a short reply.

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#1 posted 09-10-2011 08:00 PM

Great looking shop!

-- Larry "Work like a Captain but Play like a Pirate!"

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#3 posted 09-11-2011 01:25 AM

This was well worth a second look. I simply can’t think of anything to add from my previous comments about your shop space. I would enjoy working in there so I am sure that you do.

-- Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful- Joshua Marine

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#4 posted 09-11-2011 02:40 AM

If I hd that shop I think I’d quite my day job and never leave.

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#5 posted 09-11-2011 03:02 AM

Daaayyyuuummm….. Looks like one of the ultimate shops. If you get a chance, give us some info (size and stuff like that).

- JJ

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#7 posted 09-11-2011 09:15 AM

Nobody likes a show off. Great shop….....

-- mike...............

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#8 posted 09-11-2011 07:59 PM

Here’s the info you asked for:

The shop is 32’ by 48’ with 10’ ceilings and a 16’ by 16’ covered patio where I like to sand and do router work. It’s insulated, drywalled, textured and painted. I also made an office but it primarily functions as a changing room for my other hobby – dirt bike riding. I still have enough room for a car without taking away from woodworking space. There are eight 2’ by 4’ skylights which provide enough natural light that I rarely turn on the flourescent lights during the daytime.

Before I built this shop I had the tools in a 3 car garage. Rather than placing the table saw in the center of the garage, I put the table saw/shaper, jointer and planer in front of the garage door so I could use the car port as thart of the tools working envelope. I liked this trick so much I did the same thing in the shop I built.

The 5hp clearview dust collector and a 5hp compressor are mounted outside the shop to save space and keep it quiet inside (one of my older pictures shows the compressor inside the shop). The dust collector discharges to the forest so I dont need a filter. Copper airlines run throughout the shop so I can get to just about everywhere without dragging a hose around. I installed one hose reel above the table saw that extends to the outside patio.

There are 4 cabinets like the plane cabinet shown in the picture. One holds all my sanding supplies, one holds all my portable drills/nailers/ and small corded tools, one holds wrenches,sockets and krieg tools. I also have a large roll-away that holds pliers, screwdrivers, drill bits, router accessories, ect.

There are two workbenches. One is an assembly/finish bench that has wood storage underneath. The other is a sjoberg 6’ bench. I made a workbench which I showed in my gallery but its in my garage. I will put it in my shop when I get around to it.

Almost all my tools are purchased 2nd hand. Most of the floor tools are made by Delta (not shown – lather, scroll saw and shaper). I bought them second hand 20 years ago from a guy that set up a shop and never used them. My non-Delta tools are a two Powermatic sanders, a Rikon bandsaw, a makita chopsaw and a multi-router. Most of my older hand power tools are porter cable with a splash of milwaukee, makita and bosch. My newer power tools are made by festool.

I did a lot of research on different types of floor coverings (epoxy, paint, rubber, mats…) I went with a rubber floor that is a beige color. It was pretty expensive but the manufacturer said it wouldnt show any prints and cleaned up well. I hate it! the floor shows ever spec of dirt/dust and, for some reason, the rubber floor chemically reacts with tires so it has permanent tire marks it it! I would go with speckled epoxy next time.

Thanks for looking.

-- Sorry the reply is so long. I didn't have time to write a short reply.

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#9 posted 10-04-2011 11:40 PM

yeah… I am fighting the jealous urge to just say: “oooh – you suck!”
thou shalt not covet… thou shalt not covet… thou…

Congratulations. You have a beautiful shop; it must be a joy to work in!

-- A thing of beauty is a joy forever...

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#10 posted 10-04-2011 11:47 PM

OK, this intimidates me too much for me to show mine.

-- John from Hampstead

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#11 posted 08-21-2012 01:49 AM

Nice looking workshop!

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#12 posted 09-21-2012 02:16 PM

Nicest shop I’ve seen in a long time. You need to post new pics with your Felders!
How do you like that LN scraper plane?

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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#13 posted 09-21-2012 02:28 PM


Truth be told, the place is a bit of a mess. I found a camera angle that showed the Felder but hid the mess.

The workbench is full of parts that I haven’f figured out what I’ll use them for. I need to build racks to store the accessories. My unisaw and shaper are pushed up against the wall while i figure out if I like the Felder or not. I have walnut stacked up around the inside perimeter of the shop because I ran out of room on my lumber racks. My Rikon bandsaw is sitting in the middle of the floor. I haven’t decided if I will keep it or not. I have a home made panel saw that I use once a year at most that needs to go too. I have a good week of work in the shop to get it picture ready.

-- Sorry the reply is so long. I didn't have time to write a short reply.

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#14 posted 09-21-2012 07:36 PM

You have a fine shop. It would be a pleasure to work in a shop like that.

helluvawreck aka Charles

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#15 posted 09-22-2012 03:33 AM

Wow, that’s an awesome space. Very well setup and I love the exterior

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