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Sharpening station wet grinder (Thormek, Sheppac, Jet, whatever).

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#1 ·
Fitting Tormek profiled leather wheels on a Scheppac (for dummies)

Fitting Tormek profiled leather wheels on a Scheppac TIGER200S watersharpener.

And preparing them for use.
Ok some will ask why! And the answer are simple I could not get hold of a Scheppac wheel…



So if others are having the same problem:
What do you do when you are set up for woodturning, and want's razor sharp irons, for the job?
You buy a watersharpening system, it's fast and easy, and makes really razorsharp edges.
This was all wonderful for me until I realized I could not get hold of the leather wheels that fit…
So:

This can't be to difficult can it?

Uncrew and the rest will be a walk in the park yeahhh!!!

Just put this! But! Merde!!! Wrong size!!!

Ok I realized I had bought a different brand but they wrote that the tools fittet both. Guess this do not go for the leather wheels… The Thormk are 12mm mount and the Scheppach are 8 mm.
Yes, I know - read the manual, so I did… 12 mm and 8mm - no it will not fit!

So I started out with a thread extender, and some tools, not for woodworking…
Took a thread extender with 8mm inside, and turned a 12mm outside thread, and cut it in the lenght I needed, in this way I had solved the first hurtle, with a fine little adapter.

First step was solved - here you see the adapter in the mount.

And the same again…

My next problem was that the knob would not fit on the outside also now, so all I had to do was to mount a 12mm wingnut… This I had bought the other day in Paris, so all was a matter of seconds, untill I discovered that I bought a 10mm… HELP ME!!!
So I had to bore it out, and cut a new thread inside, now in 12mm.

So now it's a fit!

And again…

And action:
First mounting the mount from Tormek.

Ready.

First leather disk mounted.

Second leather disk mounted.

Wingnut on.


Now time to prepare the discs.
First you wet them in machine oil (I used some spare from my Vespa scooter), this should make them last much longer.

Then they are applyed the ABRASION PASTE.

And here we go, one in U-shape and one in V-shape.

Ready for those turning irons.

Hope this could be usefull to someone like me, if such a poor guy exist out there…

Best thoughts,
MaFe
 
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#3 ·
Escuse me for laugh loud Mads
not over the troubles you have had with it, its great that you are so clever :)
and can solve those isues and setbacks
no I laugh becourse you have such a wonderfull humor in your text
this is one of the toturials I will have to remember where I read it
just in case I ever had a problem like this (just in case)

thank´s for taking your time to post it as a picturebook for Dummies :)
have a great day Mads (you just made mine)

Dennis
 
#6 ·
Hey mads! At least you have a nice machine, I still struggle along with a normal bench grinder. It is tough in Africa…....
Nice photos and engineering as we've already learnt to expect from you!
 
#8 ·
Hi,
I thought this was the blog that would never ben read, the usless blog that dissapear into the endless amount of data on the internet… The blog to end all blogs, the final count down.
But I can see that it at least broughts some laughs…
So perhaps I have to end my blogs 'hope this can be to some laughs to all of you'.
Patron: I make me smile, I can hear it has been hard for you to get her out of your head, but I fully understand, since I meet her, I had the same problem… Thank you.
Dennis: I'm happy to make your day, now I will wait for you to make mine… Ok, I can allways read my blog again.
Cher: Yes, this is so true, and I'm a real donkey sometimes…
Tony: Yes, I would have probaly had a heart attac if it was a inch thread instead, and then wich kind.
Div: I love this machine, I have only used it on planes and schisels, and they truely become razor sharp, really easy, and are easy to resharpen, my biggest problem are that I dont have room for it, so I have to take it in and out to use it, but thats kind of luxury, yes.
Doc: when there are a little money, I can recomend this one, it's equal to the Tormek and the bigger Scheppach, but much cheaper. But remember to get the right leather wheel…
Best thoughts,
Mads
 
#9 ·
Good work Mads. Those leather wheels should be very useful for sharpening you carving chisels. The water wheel is very easy on your tools and will probably give you a sharp enough edge for most of your turning tools, except for your skew chisel or what we in Norway and perhaps in Denmark call a 'skrå meisel' which should be sharpened finely and honed with leather. I have heard a lot of good things about the Scheppack sharpening machine. Enjoy.
 
#13 ·
Rare earth magnets for the water trough (to attract steel particles from the water).

Rare earth magnets for the water trough
to attract steel particles from the water

Just a little easy to do upgrade.

Rare earth magnets for the water trough to attract steel particles from the water.
When you sharpen your tools, and especially when you re shape tools, you produce a lot of steel particles, to help avoiding these to get back up on the wheel, I made this little update.


I have this wonderful water grinder.
(Yes I love it, and can highly recommend a water grinder to all).


On the left there is a water trough that you can take off.


You need:
Rare earth magnets or other strong flat magnets.
Two component glue like Araldite.


Put some glue on a magnet in it.


Repeat this.


Here you see a piece of metal hanging in the air.
(Bad photo I know).


Close up and go for coffee.
(I have used my grinder so much that I grinded a wheel away in less than two years).

UPDATE:


It works! Look at these three little islands.


And a close up.

Thank you for watching.

Inspiration:
I visited a fellow LJ and he told me that he bought a new water trough (from Tormek) for his water grinder, and that it had magnets inside it, this stayed in the back of my head, and since I can't do much these days, I thought it would be a fine little no sweat project to upgrade my own.

Link for a Tormek trough:
http://www.turbosite.com.ar/tools/watergrinder.php

I hope this could inspire others to update,

Best thoughts,
MaFe
 
#14 ·
what a great idea

get well soon

just a though
maybe make a
small tray from thin plastic
with some drain holes in the corner
and you can lift it and drain
and the metal will come away easier
without the magnets holding them
 
#42 ·
Dedicated area for the sharpening station

Dedicated area for the sharpening station
finally a dedicated area in the shop…

Never too late!

The more woodworking I do the more I realize that half the work is sharp irons.
And I was really tired to have the water grinder, water and sharpening gear all over the place, so even my shop is really small, I decided to dedicate a little area to sharpening.
It's right behind my workbench, so I will need only to turn around to touch up an iron.


First step is to cut up some waterproof plywood, the kind that is used for concrete formwork.


As you can see I use the MFT3 Festool table and saw, promised some time ago to show how it worked.


Parts ready.
Silicone and a nailer.


And viola, the waterproof tray is a reality.


Fitted to my old storage unit.


Sharpening station is finally a reality - jubiiii.
A shelf added behind for gear.
The tray can move in and out so it functions as a little table.

Thank you for watching, small improvements can have a big impact sometimes.

Hope this can inspire others to dedicate a little area of the workshop, no matter how small your shop is,

Best thoughts,
MaFe
 
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