Hand saw restore blog #3: New bolts and some shine.

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Blog entry by mafe posted 06-21-2011 09:31 PM 20903 reads 3 times favorited 24 comments Add to Favorites Watch
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Hand saw restore
New bolts and some shine.

One step closer, and time to play with the fish!

This old G. Buck Tottenham London was actually in a really nice condition when we talk handle, and the shape is beautiful as is.

And these old bolts a treasure for the eye.
But how do I rescue them?
And how do I get them out?

First we need to invent!
Ok perhaps not invent, but be a little creative, so I cut out the center of a flat screwdriver bit, to make a special bit for the job.

And then we are ready to screw that up…

They needed a little help.

And after a tour on the cloth wheel with some compound!
Shine baby shine.

And back in.
Honestly, that is dam beautiful.

Time to open my pack from the English saw company Thomas Flinn & Co ( ), I ordered a handful of screws and the files they use them self for saw sharpening, in this way I feel sure it must be at a good standard.

Ok I must have been asleep when I ordered since I ordered a big load and when I looked at the bill I realized I had spend 70 dollar on these… So now I have to come up with some projects where I can use these! Or open a shop. They are pure brass by the way.

Look these old The fish saws were desperate for some of these fine brass bolts.

And this is so much sweeter yes?

This one had the old brass’ed’ screws, and the metal plate.
But I think it needed love.

Apart it goes.

Fine grid sand paper 320.

A cloth wheel and compound.

News all brass screws and a shine.
I think it is an improvement worth the effort.

Here another Fish asking for love.

And a drill to get the old brass screw out.

Some love.

And what do you think?
I think the saw now screams for some black dye on the handle and the blade for some rust remover…
But beautiful it is.

I’m in Paris now, and got hold of some wonderful black dye, just hope it will not end up in my suitcase now on the tour home tomorrow evening. Also some wonderful wax that leaves a finish I have never seen matched – fantastic.

This is the end of blog three in this series.

Hope this blog can help some old wonderful saws come back to life, and that it might inspire others to restore and sharpen their own saws instead of buying modern crap saws.

I will like to thank Andy and Paul since you have both been a part of the reason why I feel now ready to start this adventure that I left waiting for me for a couple of years now.

Here you can see how to make a saw guard of wood:

Best thoughts,


-- MAD F, the fanatical rhykenologist and vintage architect.

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#1 posted 06-21-2011 09:35 PM

Wonderful! Really these brass bolts fit in there!

-- Thomas - there are no problems, there are only solutions.

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Jamie Speirs

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#2 posted 06-21-2011 10:02 PM

Well worth the effort

They are becoming yours


Enjoy Paris

-- Who is the happiest of men? He who values the merits of others, and in their pleasure takes joy, even as though 'twere his own. --Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

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#3 posted 06-21-2011 10:24 PM

Looking good Mads. I agree with you about refinishing the handles. They are going to look fantastic when you’re done.

-- Andy - Old Chinese proverb says: "If you think something can't be done, don't interrupt man who is doing it."

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#4 posted 06-21-2011 10:47 PM


Very cool. Now let’s see how you do sharpening them. If I know you, you will do exceptionally well. You can feel free to send some of those bolts and nuts to me. I have a few saws that could use a good freshening. Actually, I just ordered some myself from Wenzloff and sons. In fact, I ordered split nut screws and nuts to use on an old Disston No. 7 that I am restoring. Anyway, as for your tool you made for those split nuts, well done. I actually made one from an old worn out spade drill bit because I read about making one that way on some website some time ago. I had tried to make one from an old screwdriver, but with the spade bit, I could make it the same width as the nuts so that it would have more contact to help prevent slipping and or scratching anything that we don’t want scratched.


-- Hey, woodworking ain't brain surgery. Just do something and keep trying till you get it. Doc

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Don Johnson

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#5 posted 06-21-2011 11:03 PM

Great efforts with the saws – they’re going to look good!

Tottenham, London ? Just down the road from Edmonton where I was born, and the home of Tottenham Hotspur football club (‘Spurs).

Some years before I retired, I purchased some solid felt polishing wheels from the G Buck company – might have been Buck and Ryan by then – who are certainly still trading tools in London.

The pads were for my wife to use for the copper edges of the enamel jewellery that she made – as the items would slide in between the layers on the calico versions.

This is the sort of thing she made (being shiny they don’t photograph very well)

-- Don, Somerset UK,

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#6 posted 06-21-2011 11:43 PM

Nice work, Mad.

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#7 posted 06-21-2011 11:46 PM

You are a man in love with your tools Mads, & a very keen understanding of how they are all made to help the dismantle , clean up & re assembly. Nothing nicer than seeing a restored genuine old hand piece.
Beautifully done as we now expect :))

-- Pete G: If you always do what you always did you'll always get what you always got

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#8 posted 06-22-2011 12:15 AM

Your Love and Appreciation is very apparent for these old workers Mads…
Great Work, Blog, and Photography, breathing new life into these treasures…
Best Thoughts to You my Friend!! :)

-- Mike in Concord, NH---Unpleasant tasks are simply worthy challenges to improve skills.

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#9 posted 06-22-2011 08:28 AM

Congratulations. Nice saws. Enjoy them.

-- Jiri

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#10 posted 06-23-2011 03:08 PM

what a great blog serie Mads :-)
you realy have too much fun in your shop

thank´s for sharing it with us


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#11 posted 06-23-2011 06:35 PM

Dennis, yes I try to love what I do, no the truth is I can’t help it, I do love to play around with these old tools. Glad you enjoy my saw tour. Always nice to have you around.
Jiri, ;-) not yet, but they will be good as new, no even better! (I’m brave).
littlecope, Mike, I like that way you say it, ‘breathe life into those old tools’, yes I guess that is what I doo, and hopefully also bring back its former beauty and adding some new history and love. Thank you my friend.
Pete, I do find it hard to say I’m not a materialistic person… But I believe it is in a positive way, I have this strong love for beauty made by the hand, or and added by the hand. In my ‘second’ life here I try to dig in to this beauty, understand, open the treasure chest right in front of us, before it is lost and disappear in Chinese plastic mad from Western paid oil and money.
CJ, big smile as usual hope life is sweet.
Don, that is a really interesting story, and some beautiful work of your wife. I will do my best to bring life to this saw since it now has a new story. Thank you.
Doc, yes I still have a little work to do before sharpening. First to build a saw wise, but this is the smallest part I realize. I have all the files and think I understand the main principals, so then it is ‘just’ to get it in the hand.
So you are also on the saw restore road now!
Andy, I just managed to get some black dye in Paris, so that step is on its way.

These materials are ‘spitze klasse’ amazing quality, the wax leaves a finish I have never seen like before.
Jamie, yes they become mine, slowly mine, and I am sure they will stay mine as long as I live. Big smile.
Sodabowski, it was nice to meet you again in Paris as usual, I never made it back to the center even I was planning to go back for some more of that wax!
Thank you all for those warm and wonderful comments, I’m glad you feel my love through the internet.
Best thoughts from my heart,

-- MAD F, the fanatical rhykenologist and vintage architect.

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Don W

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#12 posted 06-26-2011 01:59 AM

nice work Mads. Are the plates only on one side of the handle? I haven’t seen a saw with a plate on the handle like that. Very interesting.

I love the back saws with that kind of handle. Very stylish.

-- - Collecting is an investment in the past, and the future.

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#13 posted 06-26-2011 02:29 AM

Nice work Mads. What a satisfying job/task/dream/creation!
70 dollars is the price to pay for satisfaction, ego and pride, right?



-- Learn from yesterday, work today and enjoy success tomorrow. --

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#14 posted 06-26-2011 11:13 AM

Serge, yes it is a fair price no doubt, these saws will be a dream after to even look at I’m sure.
Don, yes the plates are one side only, I have not been able to find some history on it, but I remember I have seen it before in the old days here in Denmark.
Thank you for the comments,
best thoughts,

-- MAD F, the fanatical rhykenologist and vintage architect.

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Don W

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#15 posted 06-26-2011 01:18 PM

Has anyone seen them on a saw in the states? I wonder what the history is?

-- - Collecting is an investment in the past, and the future.

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