i am PISSED!

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Blog entry by macpiper posted 01-27-2009 10:31 PM 1801 reads 0 times favorited 28 comments Add to Favorites Watch

i don’t own a shop. while, eventually i will have one, i don’t currently have a shop. so, in order for me to get some woodworking done i rent time at a local shop, and up until lately that has not been a problem. i go in on saturdays and do my thing for a couple hours, put my project up on an out of the way shelf (i always use the same shelf), pay and head home. all is well and fine and has been for the past year and a half.

i am currently working on a box with a curved base. the plans look great as does the box itself (so far). unfortunately, before i glued up the box an instructor (who shall remain nameless) decided that the beautiful highly-figured wood i had ready and sitting with my project (on the shelf) would make better scrap than my top. so i had to figure out a new top. and remake a new top completely altering my original design. i was a little pissed at that, but okay, maybe it was an accident.

so i glue the box up and cut the piece i am going to use for the base. when i get ready to leave, everything is stacked up on the shelf, box on top of base piece and that on top of my folded up plans and that on top of the walnut i cut the base piece off of (not a large piece) for the next time. unfortunately, this was around christmas so i knew i wouldn’t be able to come in for 2 weekends.

so i asked if it would be okay to leave my stuff where it was…on the self, stacked up neatly, whichi have been using for over a year with no problems. i was told it would be fine by another instructor, and i went on my merry x-mas way. when i got back from my parents and went into the shop on saturday, my project, wood and plans were gone. the saturday instructor found my box, but everything else was thrown out. completely GONE. so i had to buy MORE wood for the base. i know the instructor who threw out my wood, and he knows i am in there saturdays. hell, he taught me in my first ever class. i even showed him the box and plans at one point. so he knew what he was doing, and instead of saying, please move your project to another shelf, he threw out my wood and plans.

i am more than a little pissed about this and needed to vent a little…...what would you guys have done in this situation?

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#1 posted 01-27-2009 10:40 PM

Really if you do this again put a label on the workpiece and stock saying politely hands off.I had a similar experience in a machine shop in a club I went to I came across a milling machine with something already in the vice there was no note/label and I asked the instructor for that day what to do he said NO NOTE TAKE IT APART AND USE THE VICE I did this and there was almighty hell from one of the other instructors saying I had no right to touch another persons work (his unfortunately) anyway it was pointred out to him what the rules were no note or label attached no security. So in future maybe come to an agreement between every one if the memebrs that a project and materials are to be left alone then a label note should be sellotaped to the piece end of problem. A listair ps sorry about your loss I would have been annoyed too.

-- excuse my typing as I have a form of parkinsons disease

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#2 posted 01-27-2009 10:52 PM

if i really thought it was him i’d make sure he saw next week before anyone else

i think it’s wrong when people think they can just attack other peoples work sorry for your loss but some people never listen to reason so only know one understanding

ps. i’d look for another shop to work in friend


-- cut it saw it scrap it SKPE: ANDREW.CARTER69

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#3 posted 01-27-2009 11:07 PM

What’s he working on right now?

-- mtnwild (Jack), It's not what you see, it's how you see it.

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#4 posted 01-27-2009 11:10 PM

Sorry my 2 cents theres no pint going down the revenge route this will only lead to small problems becoming big problems it could have just been a mistake whey not just take the stuff home with you if my previous suggestion doesn’t work.Alistair

-- excuse my typing as I have a form of parkinsons disease

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#5 posted 01-27-2009 11:25 PM

Sorry Alistair

i didnt mean to offend and i don’t condone violence but some people are just plan stupid this was a dispicable thing this igit did you don’t discard someone’s plans and timber without knowing what you are doing

andy aka pommy

-- cut it saw it scrap it SKPE: ANDREW.CARTER69

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#6 posted 01-27-2009 11:58 PM

i am currently in an academic program for woodworking, we all have cubbies with our stuff in them, no one goes into anyone elses stuff. if your name is on a piece of wood then that wood is yours if not its fair game. ifyou had your stuff on your shelf and someone touched it you have every right to be pissed. its your wood your time and your skills being used. if you rent shop space you have as much right as the next guy to leave a project there until it is done. being the person i am i might just have a little face to face with this so called fellow woodworker.and in closing, hey its wood it grows on trees.

-- Roper - Master of sawdust-

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F Dudak

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#7 posted 01-28-2009 12:24 AM

Some people need a good old fashioned a#$ whoopin’. Maybe Uncle Fester could put this nitwit’s head in a vise! I’m pissed and it’s not even my project. All I can envision is somebody taking a set of spindles I made for a chair and tossing them in the garbage. The person would look like a pin cushion if I found the spindles! Sorry to hear that you have to be some jerks ignorance.

-- Fred.... Poconos, PA ---- Chairwright in the making ----

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#8 posted 01-28-2009 12:27 AM

Frankly, I would not give them a third opportunity – I would be “out of there”, and let them know the reason why. I began my woodworking career in a one bedroom apartment – literally working on the dining room table with hand tools.

Look upon this experience as a “sign” – an opportunity to establish your own working space at home, no matter how small and humble these beginnings may be.

-- "Heaven is North of the Bridge"

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#9 posted 01-28-2009 12:36 AM

Is he “just” an instructor or is he a boss? If he’s not the boss, then it’s time to go over his head, let them know it’s cost you extra time and money, not to mention aggravation. A REAL woodworker wouldn’t throw out a spec of wood unless it’s something that belongs to them, and it’s not of a size that’s useful for anything else. I suspect that it didn’t get thrown out though, it’s probably in someone else’s house or project.

-- Respect your shop tools and they will respect you - Ric

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#10 posted 01-28-2009 12:46 AM

I agree it’s very frustrating and annoying I can’t disagree with this but perhaps he even did it deliberately we don’t know do we? anyway I agree and I would be equally annoyed too sorry about your time being wasted my friend Alistair

-- excuse my typing as I have a form of parkinsons disease

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#11 posted 01-28-2009 01:25 AM

Just kidding earlier. First reaction. You have to have a face to face, tell him what you think of what he did , then move on. It’s all a learning process anyway. Good lesson. You might not lose something of more importance later. No violence,no revenge.

-- mtnwild (Jack), It's not what you see, it's how you see it.

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John Gray

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#12 posted 01-28-2009 01:33 AM

After many many times of leaving things where I couldn’t keep an eye on them is a VERY BAD IDEA. My advice would be to take your stuff with you and keep an eye on it. Take it home, keep it in the trunk of your car, or in your truck. My 2 cents.

-- Only the Shadow knows....................

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#13 posted 01-28-2009 03:22 AM

I’d double stick tape two separate metal plates to my box lid and attach a live 110v wire to it.

I’d be willing to bet he wouldn’t touch it again…. lol.

-- As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another. (Proverbs 27:17) †

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Tom Adamski

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#14 posted 01-28-2009 04:29 AM

Let’s see… It was left out in an open shop and you are upset that someone took your stuff? Good grief!

-- Anybody can become a woodworker, but only a Craftsman can hide his mistakes.

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#15 posted 01-28-2009 05:01 AM

i learned at a very young age that if you let someone step on you today they will step on you again tomorrow . if you let them step on you tomorrow they will step on you everyday thereafter . the bullies and badasses soon learned that win or lose , my milk money just wasnt worth what they had to go thru to get it !
so ill say you can do whatever you want with your milk money , im buying milk with mine !
looks like steve korz is a milk drinker ! lol

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