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Blog entry by kooldecker posted 02-21-2019 01:09 PM 558 reads 0 times favorited 15 comments Add to Favorites Watch

hey guys thought id get a tiny gloat im here because frankly…..i know you guys can appreciate! got a text from a buddy the other night who lives about 3 hrs from me saying he was searching craigslist for ‘vise’ and this came up…...” hey this is pretty neat huh?” my immediate response was “YOU NEED TO PLEASE GO GET THAT FOR ME NOW!”
which being such a good friend he went and did the next morning. i had limited pics from the ad but saw immediately what it was. the ask price? oh it was $50 dollars ! just picked it up and started fiddling with it yesterday lol. looks like oak and beech to me as near as i can tell. both screws are in almost flawless condition and straight as arrows! middle slab is oak….but at around 2 1/2 inches ! also there is a drawer underneath with joinery that myself or any of my buds have ever seen before, its very interesting! any info on helping with dating and such id sure love. thanks!

-- " I dont understand......I cut that board AT LEAST 4 times and its STILL too short!"



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Jerry

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#1 posted 02-21-2019 03:07 PM

Wow, what a beauty! I saw one similar to that about 7 years ago at a Portland estate, but the benchwas not for sale. The history! Great find!

-- There are good ships and there are wood ships, the ships that sail the sea, but the best ships are friendships and may they always be. http://www.geraldlhunsucker.com/

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TraditionallySpeakin

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#2 posted 02-21-2019 05:00 PM

Wow, my god. That is an incredible find. I haven’t been jealous of a CL find in a while but man. The stuff that bench has built. The tools that it’s had laying on its top. Incredible to think about.

-- “If not for Roubo, the back of the U.S. nickle would be blank.” -Roy U.

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BurlyBob

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#3 posted 02-21-2019 07:43 PM

That is just so dog gone cool. You are one lucky dude. Good for you!

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Zonker

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#4 posted 02-21-2019 09:32 PM

Congratulations on an excellent score! As for the joinery on the drawer, I’ve seen it before, I think in Germany or England. I’m going on memory, so I may not be totally accurate. I believe it’s a production machined type of joinery that provided both a strong joint and a pleasing visual, sort of a modern dovetail. I Come to think of it, I would bet that it is more continental than English just by it’s style. The drawer could very well be an add on to the bench or it could have come with the bench. The bench could be fairly new or really old, as they still build them like that over there. Hope this helps.

-- Larry A. - I've made a small fortune with my woodworking. The trouble is, I started with a large fortune.

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kooldecker

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#5 posted 02-21-2019 10:33 PM

thanks guys for all the encouragement! ill have more pics as i dig deeper. there is some name stamped on the one vise screw (picture is there) that i need to try and research. as for age. im pretty sure its mid to late 1800’s. i derive that from not only the wooden vise screws. but the hand forged bolts in the end and the forged cut nails on a couple of things underneath. the drawer i agree is an add on. just by the way it was framed to receive it. it was long after im sure. ill keep digging and have more in depth pics to come. bit today my hot water heater decided to become the star of the show lol.

-- " I dont understand......I cut that board AT LEAST 4 times and its STILL too short!"

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CO_Goose

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#6 posted 02-22-2019 04:54 AM

Great find, it is sure nice to have friends!

The drawer joint is called the Knapp Joint. It was the first machine produceable joint for drawers. It was used predominately from 1870 to 19090 when there was a machine that would make dovetails for drawers.
More information Here and here:
https://antiquejoinery.wordpress.com/knapp-joint/
https://furnishgreen.com/fun-furniture-fact-the-knapp-joint/

I have an old dresser that has those joints on the drawers.

-- Just making sawdust

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Smitty_Cabinetshop

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#7 posted 02-22-2019 01:21 PM

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. -- OldTools Archive --

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kooldecker

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#8 posted 02-22-2019 02:04 PM

wow goose thanks! i knew someone on here would know about it lol. so much knowledge on here! i started on the screws the other day. i used sime citrus stripper on the one to try it out, and it worked great. next one will be the one with the name on it. my buddy is obsessed with it lol. but weve never really seen many benches or vises with names stamped on them. we dont know if its the makers mark, or perhaps the gentleman who owned its name. the mysteries continue…..and for me its half the fun!

-- " I dont understand......I cut that board AT LEAST 4 times and its STILL too short!"

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kooldecker

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#9 posted 02-22-2019 11:18 PM

Hey smitty i just realized what you did, thank you ! lol

-- " I dont understand......I cut that board AT LEAST 4 times and its STILL too short!"

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#10 posted 02-22-2019 11:33 PM

Very nice and I’m very jealous.

P.S. Hold your phone sideways (wide) and your pics will orient properly.

-- Andy - Seattle USA

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kooldecker

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#11 posted 02-23-2019 12:49 AM

thanks andy. i will try it for sure. BTW guys, i started another blog. im gonna journal my restoration. its called “my bench ressurection”. figured it was more appropriate than to keep this going .

-- " I dont understand......I cut that board AT LEAST 4 times and its STILL too short!"

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therealSteveN

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#12 posted 02-24-2019 07:30 AM

Awesome score there. Looks major league dry. Feed it some oil. I like Walnut oil for something like that, as it absorbs the oil it will literally come alive, and you can later buff it out with some wax, and it will glow for you.

Enjoy it.

-- Think safe, be safe

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kooldecker

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#13 posted 02-24-2019 12:42 PM

thanks steve! yeah im not sure what im going to use for the top yet. im going to resto the base first. then tackle the top. im gonna take my time, but atbthe same time its kind of exciting and hard to be patient lol.

-- " I dont understand......I cut that board AT LEAST 4 times and its STILL too short!"

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stefang

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#14 posted 02-24-2019 03:17 PM

You got a sensational deal on that fine old bench. It would be nice if you could reproduce that Knapp joining method on new drawers if you make them. You probably should have included all this in your new blog as it might not be so obvious and easy to find for all the readers you are likely to get. You can still edit your blog to include all the above. Makes for a very interesting story!

-- Mike, an American living in Norway.

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kooldecker

77 posts in 1866 days


#15 posted 02-24-2019 04:17 PM

stefang ill be sure to do that. i was afraid of just repeating things. im gonna rstore the drawer and fix the joints. i dont want to make anything really n” new” if i can help it.

-- " I dont understand......I cut that board AT LEAST 4 times and its STILL too short!"

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