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Workshop by knotscott posted 04-14-2009 04:56 AM 13759 reads 11 times favorited 37 comments Add to Favorites Watch

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The layout:

The Shop:

The Grizzly G1182HW 6” jointer:

My Shop Fox W1677 cabinet saw:

Router table and storage cabinet:

Ridgid EB4424 OSS spindle/edge sander (not my pics but the same sander):

My new flip cart with the R4330 planer and EB4424 sander:

Current blade roster:
80T CMT 210.080.10 Hi-ATB
60T Infinity 010-060 Hi-ATB
60T DeWalt DW7646 ATB
60T Leitz/Delta ATB
60T Onsrud TCG
50T Tenryu RS25550 ATB/R
50T Infinity Combomax Lite ATB/R
50T DeWalt DW7640 ATB/R
42T Onsrud ATB
40T Infinity Laser TK 010-046
40T Craftex Blue Tornado ATB
40T Infinity Super General 010-044 Hi-ATB
40T Delta 35-7657 40T ATB
40T Oshlun ATB
30T Delta 35-7653 ATB ripper
20T Amana Tools RB1020 FTG ripper
Dado set – Infinity Dadonator

< 10”
60T Freud Diablo D0640 (6”)
24T Bosch CRB724 (7-1/4”)
20T PC Razor (7-1/4”)

Former Blade Roster:
100T Forrest Duraline
80T Freud F810 (LU80) Hi-ATB
80T Freud LU74R010 TK ATB
80T CMT ITK 255.080.10 Hi-ATB
80T DeWalt DW7647 ATB
80T DeWalt DW3218TK ATB
60T Amana Industrial 610600
60T Oldham Industrial ATB
60T Ridgid R1060C TK ATB
60T Freud LU88R010 TK ATB
60T Freud LU82M010 TCG
60T Craftsman 32809 (by Freud)TK ATB
60T Irwin Classic ATB
60T B&D Piranha ATB
60T Leitz/Irwin Woodworking series ATB
60T DML Golden Eagle ATB
50T Amana Tools 610504 ATB/R
50T Freud LU84R011 ATB/R
50T Leitz/Irwin Woodworking series ATB/R
50T Porter Cable Razor TK
40T Infinity General 010-040
40T Freud LU86R010
40T Tenryu Gold Medal GM25540 ATB
40T Tenryu RS25540 ATAF
40T Ridge Carbide TS2000 ATB/R
40T DeWalt DW7657 ATB
40T Leitz ATB
40T CMT 213.040.10 ATB
36T Skil hollow grind
36T Ryobi (stock BT3000 blade) FTG
36T Delta Sidekick ATB
30T CMT 203.030.10 GLR
30T Freud LM74M010 GLR
30T Forrest WWII ATB
28T Skil framing & ripping ATB
28T Vermont American framing & ripping ATB
24T Freud LM72R010 FTG
24T Freud LU87R010 TK FTG
24T Infinity 010-124 TK FTG
24T DeWalt DW7124TK FTG
24T Irwin Marathon ATB

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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#1 posted 04-14-2009 05:03 AM

Got Plane?

-- ㊍ When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.

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#2 posted 04-14-2009 05:47 AM

Knotscott-Saving the world one plane at a time. I think you have got plane rehab down to a fine science! Beautiful.

-- "Bordnerizing" perfectly good lumber for over two decades.

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#3 posted 04-14-2009 05:52 AM

Are you seeing anybody about this addiction?

-- Todd A. Clippinger, Montana,

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#4 posted 04-14-2009 06:24 AM

”Are you seeing anybody about this addiction?”

... of course! ... antique dealers, Ebayers, and fellow woodworkers!

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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#5 posted 04-14-2009 02:00 PM

Scott, you have an absolutely wonderful collection of planes. The restoration job that you have done on this is fantastic. This is a collection that most of us on board here would love to have. You have a nice set of tools to play with as well.

Thanks for the pictures. I enjoyed visiting your shop.

-- Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful- Joshua Marine

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#6 posted 04-14-2009 05:01 PM

Glad all of you could stop by for a visit….wish the shop was cleaned up so we could share a cup of coffee!

I’d like to add that the plane collection showed tremenous growth in the past year, and most of it occurred within 2 years. Lots of avid, but fortuitious and patient bidding, buying, and selling went into it… swapping a few along the way for the ones I really wanted. It may seem that a collection of this size can be expensive, but I’ll offer a couple of things regarding cost….I don’t think any of those planes were over $70, and most were in the $20-$30 range. You need to be able to look past the dirt, and anticipate what blemishes you can live with and which ones can be upgraded/replaced with other original era parts (like blades and handles). I use to try to keep a slush fund of tool money on hand that I’d earned from buying old tools and selling off the parts, or fixing them up and reselling them whole….I kept finding that my tool fund would be the first thing hit when a financial need came up around the house (which is endless!) ...once I invested my tool fund into hand planes, it doesn’t get pilfered anymore! I can still saw off a plane as needed, like when I bought my cabinet saw, but it doesn’t generally go for new brakes, or a kitchen faucet repair anymore! Hand planes are a fairly stable investment, and are alot more fun to show off and fondle than a few crisp twenty dollar bills! Someday I may swap a few for a top shelf Lie Nielsen or Veritas, but for now I’m really enjoying the nostalgia and quest for the older “folks” in my fleet, and am getting all the performance I need for now.

p.s.: Many of the plane pics are now linked so you can view the whole pic as intended.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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#7 posted 04-15-2009 03:55 PM

The only older plane that I have belonged to my dad. It’s a Bailey No. 4, Pat’d March 25, ‘02. It has been cleaned up and works real good. Does this have any real value (other than sentimental to me)? I have two other smaller el cheapo big box block planes.


-- Dave Haynes, Indiana,

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#8 posted 04-15-2009 04:05 PM

kinotscott, how about some advice for a newbie; which 4 or 5 planes do you use the most? (And which 3 saw blade?) Thanks!

-- Now, where did I put those bandaids?

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#9 posted 04-15-2009 11:14 PM

Hi Dave – It’d be easier to ID the type with a pic, but it could be as old as early 1900’s. Value has much to do with condition and rarity…#4’s were fairly common, but it could have some value, but probably not enough to make it worth letting go of it…maybe $25-$75 depending. If it’s all intact, it should tune up nicely and make a great user that’ll remind you of your Dad everytime you grab it. Drop a pic of it here, I’d love to see it.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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#10 posted 04-15-2009 11:45 PM

i’ve seen woodworking stores that were not that clean.. great collection

-- It's not a sickness, i can stop buying tools anytime.

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#11 posted 04-16-2009 01:00 AM

Hey glasseyes. Everyone’s preferences are different…I tend to use my block plane, #4, #05-1/2, and 7 the most. You could easily substitute a #3 or 4-1/2 for the 4, and a 5 for the 5-1/2, and you’ll find you can do a fair amount of jointing with the 5, 5-1/2, or 6 in place of a 7 if necessary. I suspect once I get that 04-1/2 dialed in that I’ll reach for it a lot. A block plane and/or a #4 or#5 are a starter pair or trio.

Saw blades? ...IIRC you have a new R4511? I’m a staunch supporter of thin kerf blades for saws < 3hp. They cut as well as a full kerf IME, and always pose lower resistance to the saw. It’s always good to stick with quality blades, but with TK’s I think it’s even more important….never had an issue with a good one, and you shouldn’t need a stabilizer unless there’s a vibration problem that you need to bandaid, but it won’t eliminate the root cause!

Like everything else, preferences and what materials you use the most often come into play. Most traditional 3 blade sets include a 24T ripper, 40T or 50T general purpose or combo blade, and an 80T crosscut and plywood blade, with the 24T and 80T doing specialty tasks (bulk ripping and fine crosscuts respectively).

It’s possible to get acceptable cuts with just a decent ATB general purpose or ATB/R combo blade if you don’t rip a lot of thick materials, and don’t need ultra fine cuts for veneered ply and crosscuts. They’ll give you glue ready edges in rip cuts up to ~ 2”, and will give acceptable crosscuts in most applications, so it’s a safe first choice until you decide what else you’ll need. I don’t know what your budget is, but I’d choose between something like a Forrest WWII 40T TK, Ridge Carbide TS2000 TK, Infinity Combomax Lite), Freud LU83R010, or DeWalt DW7150PT if that’s the route you choose to take….you could even go for a Freud Avanti TK906 for ~ $35 on the bargain end and still have a good combo blade for general purpose applications.

For ripping thicker material or doing lots of 1”+ rips, you may want to consider adding a dedicated ripper…a 24T TK with a flat top grind (FTG) is the most efficient. It won’t crosscut acceptably, and won’t leave as clean of an edge as the GP/combo blade, but will rip more efficiently in thick materials and should still leave a glueable edge in most situations. (Pick something like a Freud LU87R010, Infinity 010-124, or DW7124PT).

If you cut a lot of veneered plywood or need ultra fine crosscuts, a 60T to 80T Hi-ATB (or ATB) grind is an excellent choice for that application but it won’t offer much verstality for ripping tasks. Something like an Infinity 010-060, Freud LU79R010, Freud LU74R010, Forrest WWI or Duraline 80T TK, or DW3218PT should be really good.

The above choces mainly follow conventional thinking to cover just about all possible bases. It’s possible to carefully choose two great blades and cover nearly the same territory as a conventional 3 blade set, but get greater versatility out of each blade. Forrest make a thin kerf 30T version of a WWII that cuts nearly as cleanly as the 40T version but rips more efficiently….it feels more like a 24T ripper to the saw and leaves cuts more like the 40T to your eyes, plus it crosscuts acceptably well in most situations. Combine the 30T WWII the 60T Hi-ATB Infinity 010-060, and you’ll have excellent versality from two blades that qualify on the fringes of being general purpose blades, but that offer a taste of specialty blade cuts. Each has strengths and weaknesses that compliment the other so you can virtually leave either one in place for most general purpose work and get acceptable cuts in most situations, but can lean toward the 30T for ripping materials thicker materials over 5/4”, and lean toward the 60T Hi-ATB for those occasions when you really want/need the finer crosscut or fine ply cut. (Knowing my cutting needs when I had a contractor saw and hybrid, these are the two I’d buy).

Another possibility for a two blade set for less money would be the Freud LU88R010 blade combined with the LU87R010 ripper…the LU88 is listed as a “Crosscut blade”, but it has a fairly steep 15° hook angle that allows it rip well to ~ 6/4”, which makes it capable of doing a lot of general purpose type work. With this set you gain better ripping efficiency in the thickest materials, but give up crosscutting ability with the ripper, and won’t have quite the clean cuts in ply as from the Infinity 010-060.

Let your needs dictate your selection as much as possible, depending on what’s feasible to spend. And let me know if I’ve confused the heck out you!

Good luck!

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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#12 posted 10-11-2009 03:38 AM

Scott, you have a real nice shop, you have a lot of hand planes.

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#13 posted 10-11-2009 03:49 AM

wow Scott you’ve got more planes than I have routers. You have some great tools and a good shop lay out.

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#14 posted 11-20-2009 09:09 AM

You were popping up in almost every read, I had to check out your shop, I don’t think I’ve ever seen a regular guys shop with so many planes. Lookiing beyound the rust, you must have spent a bit of time researching and reconditioning. I’ve only looked at new planes, and the price has prevented me from buying them, mostly the ones I will look at cost $175-250, I can’t afford that. Very impressive shop, I like your layout for the table saw workbench, unfortunatly I don’t have the space to layout my saw that way, I would really like to have that set up.


-- Bob Kenosha Wi.

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#15 posted 11-20-2009 09:16 AM

Holy cow Scott, I thought I had a lot of blades. I’ve been meaning to catalog them too so I know what I have.

Really nice job of showing all the items too.

-- -Curt, Milwaukee, WI

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