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Tool rehab part 1: piles of chisels #5: The smooth bench planes

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Blog entry by garethmontreal posted 04-11-2020 04:13 PM 654 reads 0 times favorited 0 comments Add to Favorites Watch
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I have a NO 3 smoothing plane made by the Canadian company Mibro. Its an decent user but nothing special. The only jack plane i have is a Record no 5 made c. 1960 its in pretty good shape overall. The most interesting planes of this lot are three Stanley Bailey no. 4 smoothing planes.

The earliest No 4 is a type 8 (c.1899-1902) with the B casting markings on the frog, bed and back of the lever cap. The cutter and chip breaker are from the same era and possibly the originals as the cutter has the q trade mark with 92 patent date. The tote is rosewood (with small crack) and the front knob is the low rosewood type and they have early style brass nuts. Its in quite good shape overall and has about 80 percent of its japanning. This guy came in bulk lot of random tools i got for about 40 bucks and was not listed in the description. needless it was a happy discovery when i cleaned of all the dust and saw what i had.

The other two type 4s are Canadian made frankenplanes coppled together from stanley parts from several different eras. Both of theses planes have Y shaped frog receivers which only existed on the type 19 (1948-1961) and type 20 (1962-67). Stanley had used black japanning on every type of plane except for the type 20 which was painted blue so we know the plane on the right is a type 20 and the one on the left is a type 19. There are more clear differences between these plane beds. The 19 has a single line the words saying MADE IN CAN. directly in front the tote. The Type 20 on the right has the words MADE IN CANADA. written over two lines in front of the tote (the tote on this 20 is clearly not the original). This type 20 is also about a centimetre longer then the type 19 beside it. Im very curious to know if the american made 20s are the same length as the Canadian made ones? if not then it raises the bizarre possibility that The Canadian 20 were lengthened to accommodate the extra line of writing.

The Frog on the right has Stanley written vertically on the lateral which only exists on the type 19 meaning i have a matching type 19 plane bed and frog.

However the other frog i have (on the left side of the picture below) has diagonal knurling on the brass adjuster nut which only shows up on the type 18 which was only produced between 1946-47. and Stanley is written horizontally on the lever.

of the two sets of cutters and chip breakers one of the cutters obviously of very recent manufacture as in the last couple years.

On the front side of the other cutter is the Canadian version (introduced in 1922) of the Y trademark (also known as the 2nd sweetheart) used by Stanley in the USA for just 2 years 1920 and 1921. On the reverse of the cutter are numbers 346. These number indicate when the cutter was made in this case the third quarter 1946 during the brief window of time when the type 18 was being produced.

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and the kidney shaped orange painted lever cap seems to line top around the same time. ill just various combinations of the to try and see what works best i two no 4s is enough.

here is a list of links were i got the information i put forward in this blog entry

https://www.plane-dealer.com/single-post/2017/01/24/The-Mystery-of-Stanley-Canada

http://www.supertool.com/StanleyBG/stan0a.html

https://www.timetestedtools.net/2016/01/27/stanley-bench-plane-typing/

https://www.hyperkitten.com/tools/stanley_bench_plane/

https://www.timetestedtools.net/2016/01/27/stanley-bench-plane-typing/

-- it never ends well if you start by unscrewing the split nuts



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