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Log sawing with vertical Bandsaw #1: Changed set up fabricated a infeed outfeed table that adjusts for Italian Centuri

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Blog entry by azwoodworker posted 08-10-2021 08:08 AM 883 reads 0 times favorited 3 comments Add to Favorites Watch
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This band saw is too large to get in and out of the garage, and right now I am mainly using it for resawing logs off the Chainsaw mill, or shorter logs into boards. I used two material lifts but never quite worked out with an unlevel ground outside the shop. I finally, although it’s been a long haul I finally achieved good success with the Bandsaw table extensions I made. This could turn out to be longer than I expected but hey it’s my blog and might help someone. I will be doing the Table build in the next entry. Here is the first setup I did last year.



(Have to fix these for some reason they rotate 90 when I insert them here.)

Not so fast on this one though. A little wandering trail of events is needed to be explained some.

A little background on this road I traveled and why it took so long. I just wanted to be able to resaw recycled wood I was always finding for recycled lumber like redwood 2×4’s, even Mahogany when doing jobs. That was all. I was building things like mantels and selling them, cabinet cases to match ones they already owned, Fencing, specialty shelves, furniture, and all kinds of things. I build sets for shows and doing various woodworking. Many of the houses had wood, they were happy to give sitting in their garages. I also found craigslist. Yet I had a real love for finding lumber to recycle to use. These were 10 or 12 ft, longboards. I ran them through jointer and planer but a bandsaw would cut waste. I needed to resaw them. This was fairly simple.

I started with a 14 inch old Rockwell Delta I picked but the max blade was 1/2inch, You could fit a 3/4 but not well. The power was just not enough. Donated the Delta to a neighbor and I picked up a Powermatic 14 inch for a good price, that I sawed about three hundred feet of reused 2 by 6’s to mills to a 1-inch board for a shiplap shed. With the offcuts for another shed thin lapboard. Used the table saw to cut both sides and finished with the bandsaw. When it came to hardwood logs just slowed the saw and except for shorter boards but always tough going. The blade did not track well on long cuts. It also put a lot of strain on the saw. Not the greatest solution, but I cut a lot of lumber with it.

I sold it, mostly for money as the price paid was worth it and I purchased a Hitachi vertical band saw. I took a long drive just outside Tucson. The guy was selling tools that came with the house. That should do the trick it was a 3-inch blade. The loudest tool I have ever owned. There was one problem. While there the guy also had a Chainsaw mill and two 076’s 122 cc chainsaws. This was a 3 ft double chain saw bar, and he only wanted 400 for both saws and the mill. What I deal. I was making plenty enough and hey mill some logs. He even had the brochure for the Sperber Mill back from the 1980s. I looked that over and boy, I was spending 1,000 a week on lumber from the lumber yards, making mantels and such for a marketer who had a website and I was then happy to just manufacture it. Milling some mesquite and other local lumber sounded like a great idea. I bought it. I got hooked. Bought all of the tools home. When my season ended. I got the chainsaw working milled some lumber.

I Cut up a bunch of Mesquite and made some original designs coffee tables and other pieces and ran out of wood and when I cut slabs still had to support the table and so many of the smaller logs were also good to drag home.


I still had the Hitachi, but although I followed various band saw setups. Blade gullet in center of the wheel, Blade centered on the wheel, tight/loose pressure the saw was loud, and wander when throwing up smaller 10 in logs or top cuts and most of all the 110 volts did not make it through most of the cuts. I was able to get a 10-inch board and if completely milled was able to resaw shortboards, but popping circuit breakers on dedicated outlets. The fence was small and had a table slot that allowed me some point holders and the saw had good tracking and had a 3-inch blade but as far as throwing in first cuts from the chainsaw it was not cutting it.

I wanted a bigger bandsaw. I sold the saw got twice what I paid, but the guy also did not have to drive into the mountains for 2 hrs or rehab the saw.

I finally purchased the saw I have now. I made the sled for it. The saw is a 2 HP older Cast iron Italian Bandsaw able to cut up to 16 in boards. Tried a number of things but still having trouble with power. I replaced belts and got it to cut pretty well. The only problem is it is really top-heavy and when you do something on it it can tilt over very fast. It is meant to be bolted to the concrete floor but does not fit in the shop and If I am going to be slicing up smaller logs and doing resaws I need room and the shop is already filled with stationary tools. I made a base with 6-inch angle iron with heavy-duty wheels and a 1/4 inch top plate that the band saw bolts to. All recycled material I just picked up through travels and asking friends. Even bought a welder, friends did the welding and brought their own bigger welder to do the job. It rolls pretty easily around the concrete patio in front of the shop and does not tip. I can level it with some shims to get level. The patio was made to disperse water and no part is really flat. It is at the end of the sloping driveway so there is almost no place completely flat.

Now that I have the bandsaw I have to set it up to do what I wanted it to do, but smaller logs 10 in wide long or short and also be able to cut some logs that curve to art pieces and certain pieces I had imagined. What I got was the material lift and carriage cradle in the first picture that holds the log and slides through the supports. I have two material lifts and got through cutting a bunch of maple and other logs that were too small for the chain saw. However, I managed with the chainsaw and band saw to produce this.

A lot of it was cut with the band saw in Summer 2020.

This was workable but the bandsaw and then infeed outfeed on separate supports was pretty rough lots of adjusting and taking too long. It also did not work well enough that I could just take the first cuts off the chainsaw mill and break them down, at least one side, and most of the time two sides had to be jointed with a perfect 90 so I could get a straight cut. It was working but still too much prep.

Well, this is it for this post. I will follow up with my latest and hopefully final solution with success on using a vertical bandsaw to mill straight boards without jointing and flatting and other problems.

I saw the other blog posts got like 2,000 views so please comment even if it’s just something about the journey. I know many with big mills will think just get a bandsaw mill. At this point, I will. Have a place to set one up, but it was never my intention to mill wood, to make lumber, just wanted lumber to do nice furniture that was unique and save the trees from being mulch.

I probably should have remarried so I had a wife to tell me to “stop playing and get to work doing something that brings in the doe, I need a new couch”.



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#1 posted 08-10-2021 12:04 PM

Here you go.

-- Knappen aka Ole - I have to try everything at least once. http://oknap.dk/pg

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#2 posted 08-10-2021 02:53 PM

Thank you very much.

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#3 posted 08-11-2021 03:40 AM

Fun read. Thanks for sharing.

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