Upper Deck #1: Ledger

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Blog entry by Zuki posted 06-26-2009 01:22 AM 3125 reads 0 times favorited 11 comments Add to Favorites Watch
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During the summer months most of my woodworking are projects for outside . . . like my recent greenhouse project. This project is a deck on the rear of our house. You can see from the pic it is up pretty high (11ft of the ground) and it is over the stairwell going into the basement (another 8ft).

The first step is to remove the siding. A definite must is a siding removal tool. Cost $6 and allows you to unhook the siding for removal.

Here I have all the siding removed and you can see the Tyvec underneath.

Next I had to attach the 2×10x12 to the wall. I attached two strap to it and while I slid it up the ladder, DW pulled on the straps. She held it in place while I popped in a couple of long screws to temporarily hold it in place. I found the studs and then attached the ledger with countersunk 3 1\2 inch 5\8 galvanized lag bolts with washers.

I then attached the aluminum flashing over the board. I had this bent by a siding contractor who gave me a couple of tips on its installation. I then installed the J-trim around the flashing.

Then came the reinstalling of the siding. I measured and marked . . . measured again . . . measured one more time and checked my mark on the siding. I only got once chance at cutting the siding as the stuff I removed is a little lighter in colour than new stuff.

All my measurement worked out, the siding went back in place and here is the finishaed stage one.

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11 comments so far

View Russel's profile


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#1 posted 06-26-2009 01:37 AM

It’s a good idea to put a deck there, otherwise that door becomes a bit of a health hazard. ;-)

Your “outdoor” projects are always interesting. They require a certain amount of engineering that escapes me. I’m always intimidated by structural projects.

Nice work with the siding. It looks like the ledger has been there all along.

-- Working at Woodworking

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#2 posted 06-26-2009 01:41 AM

I agree with Russel. Sure looks good. Waiting for the next step(s)

-- Gary, DeKalb Texas only 4 miles from the mill

View Zuki's profile


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#3 posted 06-26-2009 01:50 AM

Tks Russel.

Gonna start more work this weekend Gary.

I have heard these types of doors nicknamed as “mother-in-law” doors. Im not sure if it prevents them from entering or if you hope they will use it when leaving. :-)

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#4 posted 06-26-2009 02:06 AM

I normally wouldn’t post this but having first had experience gives me somewhat of an opinion.

Please don’t place the ladder at such an “open” angle unless you have someone blocking the feet. Although the ladder seems stable, it can slide out from under you.

There is this humorous story about a ladder, some Christmas decorations and an afternoon in the Emergency Room. Fortunately for me, my youth and cat like reflexes allow me to use my face to break my fall into the shrubs that surround the house.

-- Lew- Time traveler. Purveyor of the Universe's finest custom rolling pins.

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#5 posted 06-26-2009 06:17 AM

I completely agree with lew. The angle of that ladder is quite dangerous. The force downward your body creates grows geometrically as you move up the ladder. To establish a safe ladder angle a good rule of thumb is to hold the ladder vertical close to your body. Grab the rung that is nearest to the height of your shoulder. Now extend your arms out while hanging on to the ladder. The ladder ends up at the angle of the hypotenuse of a triangle of your arms and the distance from your shoulder to your feet. This angle should be safe.

-- criticism: the art of analyzing and evaluating the quality of an artistic work...

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#6 posted 06-26-2009 01:40 PM

Looks like a fun project. I would keep that Door locked in the mean tiime. WOW.

-- Hope Never fails

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#7 posted 06-27-2009 12:16 AM

Without the stand off arms I would have not even considered the angle. Lew . . . You cant see from the picks, but the feet of the ladder are into the edge of the flowerbed into the ground . . . effectively blocking the feet like you suggested. I did not have many options on how to place the ladder . . . so I made the option I did have as safe as possible.

Tks for the tip jlssmith5963.

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#8 posted 06-27-2009 12:22 AM

Zuki please read padre thread about ladders i think you will change your working pratice of working up a ladder without anyone footing the thing …....

but looking good and i like the mother-in-law gag if only it were true with mine lol…...

-- cut it saw it scrap it SKPE: ANDREW.CARTER69

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#9 posted 06-27-2009 12:47 AM

I just read his posting Pommy . . . ouch. I originally missed it . . . tks for letting me know.

I will be going back up this weekend, however I will be adding additional safety measures.

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#10 posted 06-27-2009 01:12 AM

hey Zuki
Looks Like a good start. You could save yourself a lot of time and money if you just put some hooks with parachutes on the in side the door. LOL

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#11 posted 06-29-2009 01:03 AM

what CAN’T the two of you do?? !!!

-- ~ Debbie, Canada (, Young Living Wellness )

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