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1880s Counter #4: Figuring things out

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Blog entry by Smitty_Cabinetshop posted 01-17-2020 01:20 PM 568 reads 0 times favorited 13 comments Add to Favorites Watch
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Went to dad’s shop space and did some “assembly,” or staging of the pieces of the counter to revisit how it needs to come together. Yes, a great many of the pics have the piece upside down; that’s the way I’m able to work it at this stage. Enough discussion, let’s take a look.

The top is on the concrete; to that, I’ve added the complex moulding assy that has not been completely deconstructed as well as parts of each of the returns.

Once that was in place, I set down one end cap.

And the, the other.

That’s a pretty good look as to what needs to be done. But wait, he said, there’s more! We’ve got mid-sections pieces as well!

One key is the long center panel, that’s recessed. It’s quite long, and each board has a 45 degree lap cut to join them for making the distance of the counter’s total width.. Knowing how long this joined piece needs to be is a question that needs to be answered. I’d also like to re-cut these pieces to mate up a little better.

Yeah, boards are different widths! Anyway, I want to cut and re-join these boards. So to the RAS.

Here’s what I cut off one.

The other board has a bit a cupping that will have to be addressed to get a tight joint. More on that in a later installment.

Then, there’s the top. I marked a very rough cut-off during mark up, to bring this 11’ monster down to a more manageable size.

Lots of rot remains. That will have to be addressed… with breadboard ends that extend? Or patched pieces? I just don’t know. And more will have to be discovered re: getting the boards and trim applied towards the bottom of this assy, where it meets the floor. And, of course, the order of assy remains a question. Lots of unknowns, don’t need any missteps. In the meantime, I’m off to get a quart of paint that matches this green as closely as possible, for touchups where old wood meets new cuts. Until then, thanks for looking.

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. - OldTools Archive -



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#1 posted 01-17-2020 01:32 PM

Looking good.

What is the new length of the top?

-- David in Palm Bay - retired and loving it!

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#2 posted 01-17-2020 01:52 PM

That top is such a huge stick!

Thank you Smitty.

-- ~Tony

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#3 posted 01-17-2020 03:03 PM

Tony, David – that single board is 24 1/4” wide and 11’ long. And right at 1 1/2” thick. Well, it was 11’ long. Now it’s just over 8’, the intended (approximate) length of what will be the final, rebuilt counter. If I’d cut it to remove all rot, it’d be closer the 5.5’ long or so. Much to do; the decay is in a triangular shape at one corner.

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. - OldTools Archive -

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#4 posted 01-17-2020 04:53 PM

I think the trip to find a paint match was a success!

(The right side is the newly painted side.)

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. - OldTools Archive -

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#5 posted 01-17-2020 05:19 PM

Was the 24” board the top, or was there something over it?
I’m going to love seeing how you fix it. I’m not sure what I’d do.

-- http://timetestedtools.net - Collecting is an investment in the past, and the future.

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#6 posted 01-17-2020 05:43 PM

Excellent match.

-- ~Tony

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#7 posted 01-17-2020 06:47 PM

The 24” board was the top, yes. And for the end that is intact, pics don’t do it justice. Lots of character, nice hue and tone. Thx tony, agreed! Might use it more, knowing it’s a solid match! :-)

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#8 posted 01-17-2020 08:20 PM

Smitty, could you plane the boards thinner then laminate them to plywood? This would allow you to keep the original dimensions.

Nice match on the paint.

-- "With every tool obtained, there is another that is needed" DonW ( Kevin )

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#9 posted 01-17-2020 08:54 PM


Smitty, could you plane the boards thinner then laminate them to plywood? This would allow you to keep the original dimensions.

- theoldfart

Unfortunately, that’d leave me with a plywood top, as that’s the rot I’d be planing away. I’ve thought about turning it upside down, but the look of the original top that is good… just too good.

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. - OldTools Archive -

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#10 posted 01-18-2020 12:54 AM

Maybe wrap it with new? I think simple breadboard end would look to much like a fix, but bordered all the way around might be classy enough to avoid it. Dunno, just thinking outloud.

-- http://timetestedtools.net - Collecting is an investment in the past, and the future.

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#11 posted 01-18-2020 01:37 AM

Can you tell what kind of wood(s) this is made from, Smitty?

-- Bob, Missoula, MT -- Rocky Mountain Saw Works http://www.rmsaws.com/p/about-us.html -- ~Non multa sed multum~

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#12 posted 01-18-2020 03:57 AM

Bob, the entire bar is pine. And not SYP or loblolly; a very soft, clear pine.

And yes, Don, I’m leaning towards banding. I have some 2x stock of the same wood, clear pine, that I can plane down to thickness and do some cut-and-replace work. That’ll cut the size of the triangle by more than half; from there, more to do. I’ll get better pics and a discussion going in a later post.

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. - OldTools Archive -

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#13 posted 01-19-2020 03:05 PM

Looks like an interesting save.

-- Mike, an American living in Norway.

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