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Workshop operational tips. #29: You’re gonna need bigga wheels... Wheely!

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Blog entry by LittleBlackDuck posted 02-18-2021 11:17 AM 1207 reads 0 times favorited 14 comments Add to Favorites Watch
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Boys and Girls,

If you remembered from the start that large wheels negotiate hazards in the workshop better than small wheels, you are already cruising in top gear.

Nevertheless there are two many woodworkers that have compromised on small wheels and find that those bloody annoying small slivers of timber seems like a log when you try to wheel your mobile around the workshop.

When I was still in Melbourne (Richmond), my shop floor was tongue and groove particle board sheets that was smooth as the missus’s newly waxed legs and I had no issues wheeling around my mobiles on small wheels… yeah, I was cheap back in those days… no NASA funding (ey, pottzy)!

Initially I built my mini-lathe stand on small wheels and as I only used it to turn pens, stability was not a major issue and for that added stability, 2bsure 2bsure, I jacked it up on fold down braces when stationary,


(yeah, yeah… and extension table… I made bloody big pens)...
Nevertheless, engaging the braces was a pain in the arse and I was determined to fins a better way to get more stability (by lowering the COG).
However, when I moved to Churchill, with the cracks in the concrete, it was more like varicose veined legs and the mobile was quickly bogged down with the small wheels.

Sometime in the past 11 years, before I joined LJ, I opted for slightly larger wheels and redesigned the wheel mounts to permit lowering of the cabinet to accept larger wheels and still maintain stability with a relatively low centre of gravity.
This is how it stands (and rolls) now,


Before the eagle eyes (rc) out there start yapping about ”they’re small wheels too”, I borrowed the larger wheels for my Workmate not too long ago and never replaced them, thoug the wheels on it now is a tad larger than the original… don’t tell me you’ve never played musical wheels?

Also a while back, I ”puttied” the cracks with some sort of gumbo (no idea what, where or when) but it seems to have lasted,

Since then, I learnt SketchUp and made a design that could be either used from the start or retro-fitted to replace small wheels… or the concept just used to lower the centre of gravity for the mobile.

I have exported an animation of the SketchUp model and provided some basic commentary before I started to mumble after opening up a cask of vino.

Hopefully it might give some readers a few ideas as I see far too many posting of great projects, however, I question the size of some of their wheels.
Personally, I have opted for heavy duty commercial mobile bases lately, so I’m only offering this as a suggestion for shekel constrained jocks.

Keep safe jocks... and your jocks safe!

-- If your first cut is too short... Take the second cut from the longer end... LBD



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#1 posted 02-18-2021 12:12 PM

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tyvekboy

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#2 posted 02-18-2021 03:18 PM

I agree with you that bigger wheels are better for mobile bases.

However, smaller wheels that get stopped by small chunks of wood will remind you to sweep your shop floor and do a little clean up.

-- Tyvekboy -- Marietta, GA ………….. one can never be too organized

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#3 posted 02-18-2021 04:03 PM

bigger wheels and only polyurethane,no hard rubber or plastic,you’ll regret it.damhikt!

-- working with my hands is a joy,it gives me a sense of fulfillment,somthing so many seek and so few find.-SAM MALOOF.

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#4 posted 02-18-2021 05:39 PM

Wish I could follow that advice but hindsight etc.
Big Wheels Keep On Turning.

-- James E McIntyre

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#5 posted 02-18-2021 09:20 PM



However, smaller wheels that get stopped by small chunks of wood will remind you to sweep your shop floor and do a little clean up.
- tyvekboy

True tyvek, however, better to be forewarned. One doesn’t need a divorce to remind them they made a mistake.

bigger wheels and only polyurethane,no hard rubber or plastic,you ll regret it.damhikt!
- pottz

Thanks pottzy... I should have mentioned those golden rules in the body as well.

... but hindsight etc.
- James E McIntyre

Hopefully JEM, this can give some readers a fix option. Normally, big wheels directly under a “box” craps out the COG.

-- If your first cut is too short... Take the second cut from the longer end... LBD

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#6 posted 02-19-2021 02:51 AM

I just wish I had a workshop big enough to have wheeled machinery, but yes, bigger is always better.

-- Lifes good, Enjoy each new day...... Cheers from "On Top DownUnder" Crowie

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#7 posted 02-19-2021 04:00 AM

About $750 and another set (I hope) was $1100 Wow
I don’t remember paying that much!

-- Regards Rob

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#8 posted 02-19-2021 06:16 AM



About $750 and another set (I hope) was $1100 Wow
I don t remember paying that much!

- robscastle


Thanks for the heads up… Don’t know why everyone says your so dumb… great idea.
I have attached a set to my router table, in case I want to rout around,

Thinking of freezing the concrete so I can use my ice skates.

-- If your first cut is too short... Take the second cut from the longer end... LBD

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#9 posted 02-19-2021 06:46 AM

Roller Derby in the shed, look out Ducky.

-- Lifes good, Enjoy each new day...... Cheers from "On Top DownUnder" Crowie

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#10 posted 02-19-2021 07:04 AM



Roller Derby in the shed, look out Ducky.

- crowie

Ralphie Valladares was my pinup boy before the then missus trashed my roller skates.

-- If your first cut is too short... Take the second cut from the longer end... LBD

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#11 posted 02-20-2021 05:42 AM

Its comforting to know there are other “loonies” around in these times of total despair and sometimes a loss of sense of direction at times prevails!

-- Regards Rob

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#12 posted 02-20-2021 09:09 PM

On my lumber rack, I’ve got 12 of these casters with 6 inch steel wheels rated for 1200lb each.

Still, I haven’t moved it since I put a few thousand pounds of lumber on it

-Paul

-- I intended to be a woodworker, but turned into a tool and lumber collector.

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#13 posted 02-20-2021 10:21 PM



Its comforting to know there are other “loonies” around in these times of total despair and sometimes a loss of sense of direction at times prevails!
- robscastle

I put bells on all my smaller wheeled mobile bases. When they get caught in a concrete crack, they can behave like trams and warn others.

On my lumber rack, I ve got 12 of these casters with 6 inch steel wheels rated for 1200lb each.

Still, I haven t moved it since I put a few thousand pounds of lumber on it

-Paul

- Ocelot

lot of good ideas Oce... Love the way you ”recessed” your wheels… gotta file that in my memory banks that alcohol cannot touch.
However, I reckon they would have rolled easier if you didn’t put them on the side of the cart.

-- If your first cut is too short... Take the second cut from the longer end... LBD

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#14 posted 02-23-2021 01:30 PM

Well Ducky, it took me 3 days, but I got those casters moved, and they do work better!

Holds more lumber too!

-- I intended to be a woodworker, but turned into a tool and lumber collector.

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