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Stupid Ideas/Buys of the past (so far)... #12: Build it Up Just to Pull it Down.

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Blog entry by LittleBlackDuck posted 01-16-2020 12:39 PM 685 reads 0 times favorited 9 comments Add to Favorites Watch
« Part 11: RTFM… Part 12 of Stupid Ideas/Buys of the past (so far)... series Part 13: Uplifting Drill Press table inovation. »

Boys and Girls,

We all like to brag about our achievements and sweep our failures under the carpet… well, my carpet has run out of space so I’ve decided to group my failures and mistakes under Stupid Ideas/Buys of the past (so far)….

When I bought my first Drill Press (DP) the only woodworking I knew was screwing… in one direction… UP! So I bought this pre-fab DP tabletop based on Incra hardware,

It served me well and I should have been content… Nah, had to improve it.. decided to put a box under it to hold some of my stuff,

This box followed me through several DP upgrades and then I had to get fancy… decided to incorporate bi-directional movement for my table using drawer slides,

OOPS! Move the table “bottom” to the “top”

My first stupid mistake was placing the slides too close together so each layer of the table rocked… NO, not as in looked good but literally rocked/pivoted on its axes. Moved the slides closer to the edge and gained a modicum of stability… a modicum! I added hardware to lock down travel as required.

My next mistake was to get fancy… as if the first fancy was not fancy enough… I added some outriggers supports for large pieces that could be supported by some rollers,

I revelled in my ingenuity until it came to moving the table… Fortunately I had mother nature on my side and when it came to downward travel, auntie gravity was on my side, but on the way up it was an absolute bitch… I needed a can of these

just to commence an upward motions and a few in between

before reaching the top.

Eventually I came to my senses, after 3 hernias, a carpel tunnel and 2 tennis elbow operations, and removed all but the topmost table.

I did manage to retain the box in a more user friendly location…

Hell now I could stuff it full of lead weights but remains empty most of the time.

I have since incorporated a milling table into the mix which Is put on the table when the desired height is reached… no grunt,

This milling table cost me $25… It was a pricing mistake that was honoured (long story)… The correct price was $250, however, if you compare that to the guestimated cost of approx.. $400 for this this project (including design, labour and hardware) it is hard to see economies of scale especially as it was scrapped.

My Stupidity was not in building a heavy tabletop but rather in not filling the box with helium baloons.
The next stupid mistake was removing the box as I had no-where to mount my Woodpeckers squares,

-- If your first cut is too short... Take the second cut from the longer end... LBD



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HokieKen

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#1 posted 01-16-2020 01:58 PM

We’re all guilty of over-building our tools and accessories. However, you’ve broken the over-engineerer’s golden rule! Never Retreat! Rather than reducing the table back to a more manageable size, what you should have done is to build a different contraption to lower and raise your table for you. OH! Or better yet, you should have fixed the table in place and built a hoist to move the rest of the press up or down as needed!

-- Kenny, SW VA, Go Hokies!!!

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HokieKen

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#2 posted 01-16-2020 02:01 PM

On a more serious note ;-) how do you like those adjustable t-track toggle clamps? I’ve contemplated purchasing a couple but never had hands on any. They look flimsy when I see them online so I’ve always shied away and saved my sheckels.

-- Kenny, SW VA, Go Hokies!!!

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splintergroup

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#3 posted 01-16-2020 02:50 PM

Heh! I bought one of those milling XY tables with dreams of routing slots into various small bits-o-wood that needed to be held in a machine vise. An offering to my “shelf of shame” no doubt!

I can envision a nice hydraulic ram to assist your table on the up stroke, give it a go 8^)

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pottz

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#4 posted 01-16-2020 03:12 PM



On a more serious note ;-) how do you like those adjustable t-track toggle clamps? I ve contemplated purchasing a couple but never had hands on any. They look flimsy when I see them online so I ve always shied away and saved my sheckels.

- HokieKen


id like to hear ducks response on this myself since ive got a couple of em and have never been happy with how they work,i may not be using then correctly though,just havn’t takin the the time to really figure it out.

-- sawdust the bigger the pile the bigger my smile-larry,so cal.

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Dutchy

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#5 posted 01-16-2020 04:35 PM

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Dutchy

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#6 posted 01-16-2020 04:35 PM

Ducky, ducky you were lucky. If this machine was fallen on you we wouldn’t have had eggs for a long time.

-- https://dutchypatterns.com/

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LittleBlackDuck

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#7 posted 01-17-2020 01:36 AM


... Never Retreat!....
- HokieKen

I Never Retreat... I prefer to look at it as just having run a marathon… though exhausted, I’ve reached the finish/start line!

.... what you should have done is to build a different contraption to lower and raise your table for you….
- HokieKen

Whoah there hoss, that is going to be covered by another Stiupid Ideas that didn’t work.


... adjustable t-track toggle clamps?...
- HokieKen

...i’ve got a couple of em and have never been happy...
- pottz

pottzy, a casko-vino and you be happy!

Hokie’, pottzy, you charmers referring to these Rockler clamps?

Hate to be accused of reviewing Blum drawer slides while I’m bragging about my stuff ups. If yes, stay tuned for the follow up… but you MUST ASK...


Ducky, ducky you were lucky….
- Dutchy

You practicing to be Joost van den Vondel, Dutchy?

-- If your first cut is too short... Take the second cut from the longer end... LBD

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LittleBlackDuck

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#8 posted 01-17-2020 02:50 AM



... with dreams of routing slots into various small bits-o-wood that needed to be held in a machine vise….

Have used it similarly a few times (probably not enough to justify if I had to pay full price… but I try not to justify... and succeed)...
Fortunately I can crank up my DP to 5,000 rpm and have had some success with router bits… though it does chew up the shaft a tad.

-- If your first cut is too short... Take the second cut from the longer end... LBD

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Bill Berklich

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#9 posted 01-24-2020 12:18 PM

I can see that once again I need to ratchet up my woodworking endeavors especially in the Heavy Weight Class

-- Bill - Rochester MI

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