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Stupid Ideas/Buys of the past (so far)... #11: RTFM…

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Blog entry by LittleBlackDuck posted 01-13-2020 12:50 PM 471 reads 0 times favorited 10 comments Add to Favorites Watch
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Boys and Girls,

We all like to brag about our achievements and sweep our failures under the carpet… well, my carpet has run out of space so I’ve decided to group my failures and mistakes under Stupid Ideas/Buys of the past (so far)….

Nearly every woodworking article I read that talks about wax, refers to Johnson’s Paste Wax.

Ever willing to plagiarise, I ventured down to Bunnings (Australia’s local hardware store) to buy a can/bottle/tube or whatever it comes in (all the articles talked about it and never actually showed it)…

After perplexed looks and many alternative referrals, I came to realise that particular wax was not readily available in Australia, except maybe on the black market.
Did a “Google” and got a heap of availability through eBay. Now what struck me immediately was this particular hit, quoting “Antique Johnson’s Paste Wax”. The wording Antique… Wax raised my interest and I honed in on that offering, PayPaled my $20 and eagerly awaited the International delivery… surprised there was no hefty shipping charge… caveat emptor!
It took several weeks to arrive, however, even I realised that in those few weeks, wax and tin would not deteriorate to this level,

and to think, the rag was thrown in for free.

The Stupidity was not in ordering off the Internet, or neglecting to velidate the supplier, but in NOT looking up the dictionary the meaning of antique!

PS. Fortunately, EBay does have a satisfaction guarantee policy and if the vendor ever wanted to sell again they had to refund my $20… which they did and let me keep the wax. Thanks vendor... luckily for me, as I did not RTFM eBay’s policies and didn’t know what to expect!

FAIW. I have replaced the rag with a locally procured, eco-friendly, wax resistant, cotton blend,

-- If your first cut is too short... Take the second cut from the longer end... LBD



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tyvekboy

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#1 posted 01-13-2020 04:49 PM

You got a deal. Itʻs still good. The can looks good too.

-- Tyvekboy -- Marietta, GA ………….. one can never be too organized

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LittleBlackDuck

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#2 posted 01-13-2020 06:11 PM


You got a deal. Itʻs still good. The can looks good too.
- tyvekboy

Actually tyv’, at the end of the day I now had some elusive Johnson’s Wax which when I ignored the rust on the tin and the age of the rag, still seemed perfectly usable… and is! Though that was not my initial intent regarding “antique”.
With the refund all my Christmases had come at once, even though it was April… after giving up on washing the rag out after 8 times, I settled down to trying to find something to wax… other than my legs.

It was the audacity of the actual sale… caveat emptor!

-- If your first cut is too short... Take the second cut from the longer end... LBD

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pottz

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#3 posted 01-14-2020 07:06 PM

wow ducks i didn’t know you loved “antiques” so much,i need to go through my garage and see what kind of deals i can offer you.

-- sawdust the bigger the pile the bigger my smile-larry,so cal.

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CaptainKlutz

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#4 posted 01-15-2020 09:42 AM

IMHO – Karma was trying to tell you Johnson’s paste wax is not a very good product.

Personally hate Johnson’s paste wax. I put it in a ‘stupid’ column all by itself. Too much paraffin wax in the formulation that causes smearing, especially in warmer climates. When you finally buff away the paraffin smear, there is no wax left behind. It also yellows with age as you saw in that antique can. It’s ok for maid/housewife as cheap weekly furniture polish with minimal build; but not as final finish on wood project.

For cast iron protection, I prefer pure Carnauba wax in solvent carrier. Carnuaba is hardest. most durable, water resistant wax you can get. Staples Crystal Clear Wax is inexpensive and reliable product. Was used on bowling alleys for almost a century, till they change to plastic film lane coatings. Veritas Tool Wax behaves same as much larger and cheaper Staples cans.

For protecting wood projects, prefer to use beeswax/Carnauba blend, such as Briwax Clear; or even better a beeswax/carauba/shellac blend, such as Mylands Clear Wax.

The key with beeswax as furniture finish over (cheaper) paraffin is it has higher melting point, which doesn’t smear as easy. The Mylands shellac blend leaves behind a harder surface than most other wax products, good for toys and stuff that gets handled a lot. Just keep it away from alcohol. Mylands works well on cast iron tools too as the shellac helps seal the pores, but its double the cost of Staples Brand wax.

Have no idea if these products or similar versions are available down under?
But I refuse to allow the myth of Johnson’s Wax being a good product to be propagated uncontested.
YMMV

-- I'm an engineer not a woodworker, but I can randomly find useful tools and furniture inside a pile of lumber!

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LittleBlackDuck

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#5 posted 01-15-2020 09:56 AM


..... But I refuse to allow the myth of Johnson s Wax being a good product to be propagated uncontested.
- CaptainKlutz

Well said ’Klutz... However, the main intention of the article was about my stupidity and I don’t believe I was in anyway spruiking the benefits of Johnsons wax...

The intention of the article was to mention that it was cited in a lot of articles, cannot be bought in Australia and if you order something off the internet, make sure you know what you are doing.

I do not use that wax for furniture or machinery… I have many better items to use… maybe if people bothered to review some of the products they use I would not have to sit here defending my tongue in cheek article (not a review).

I basically use the Johnsons wax to protect my bench and jigs from glue squeeze out, paint, oil spils and other comtaminants/polutants… hope that meets with your approval.

-- If your first cut is too short... Take the second cut from the longer end... LBD

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pottz

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#6 posted 01-15-2020 03:04 PM


..... But I refuse to allow the myth of Johnson s Wax being a good product to be propagated uncontested.
- CaptainKlutz

Well said Klutz... However, the main intention of the article was about my stupidity and I don t believe I was in anyway spruiking the benefits of Johnsons wax...

The intention of the article was to mention that it was cited in a lot of articles, cannot be bought in Australia and if you order something off the internet, make sure you know what you are doing.

I do not use that wax for furniture or machinery… I have many better items to use… maybe if people bothered to review some of the products they use I would not have to sit here defending my tongue in cheek article (not a review).

I basically use the Johnsons wax to protect my bench and jigs from glue squeeze out, paint, oil spils and other comtaminants/polutants… hope that meets with your approval.

- LittleBlackDuck

OUUUUCH! is it getting hot in here :-(

-- sawdust the bigger the pile the bigger my smile-larry,so cal.

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sansoo22

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#7 posted 01-15-2020 03:11 PM

I like the looks of the old school tin can. Many antique dealers around here stock old tin cans of oil that are meant for nothing more than an old item to display on a shelf. In a world of plastic everything I can see the allure of wanting some old vintage cans with cool logos to put on a shelf.

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CaptainKlutz

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#8 posted 01-15-2020 09:10 PM

Calm the duck down! :-)

Looks like I have to explain my post?

You said:


Nearly every woodworking article I read that talks about wax, refers to Johnson’s Paste Wax.
- LittleBlackDuck

IMHO – That is ‘spruiking’ a product. Especially with no mention of what you use it for?

Last thing I want is some newbie, looking at the post by senior member LBD, that he uses Johnsons’ Paste Wax (JPW) and it is good stuff. So I posted my opinion. Sorry if the off topic post offended you?

Johnson’s Paste Wax is last and worst choice compared to the other options available; And that was my only point to posting on your blog entry.

Yes, you did something silly. Sure it’s sort of funny. Sorry JPW is not sold in Australia.
But your ‘point’ RTFM that was not what I commented about; why get defensive?

Would you have been happier if I posted a HAHA or BTDTGTTS at the beginning of my post?

I did not attack your mistake, silly blog posts, grammar, any part of your opinion on uses of JPW, SO:
Why attack my opinion with an attempt to share better wax options, am I not allowed to be serious?
Why demand that I post reviews on products I prefer, as your defense for attacking me?

You got defensive and attacked me without any provocation. Thanks, No Thanks.

#UNWATCH#

PS – If I posted in blog every time this klutz did something stupid, would never stop posting.
My alias name is me. #IAMAKLUTZ

Example: Cut myself twice yesterday in shop via a unknown metal burr on a bar clamp, and super glued my fingers together trying to fix one cut to keep working. Is that funny, or blog worthy? Not to me, it’s a normal afternoon in shop.

Your attack on me was offensive, and has been flagged as such.
Cue the drummer: Ba-Da-Boom

-- I'm an engineer not a woodworker, but I can randomly find useful tools and furniture inside a pile of lumber!

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LittleBlackDuck

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#9 posted 01-15-2020 11:15 PM



.... OUUUUCH! is it getting hot in here :-(
- pottz

Must be the backdraft of the fires near Churchill… and they called the tension between USA and Russia the Cold War...

Damn, I was itching to throw a few more logs on the fire, but that’d be Stupid move #3 in this article as the Captain’ has decided to Unwatch (even if I offered an olive branch)...

One thing about you pottzy... with your support, I’ll never get promoted past private...

-- If your first cut is too short... Take the second cut from the longer end... LBD

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LittleBlackDuck

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#10 posted 01-15-2020 11:19 PM



.... I like the looks of the old school tin can.
- sansoo22
Antique Johnsons Wax for sale… $250 (plus P&H)...

-- If your first cut is too short... Take the second cut from the longer end... LBD

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