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Workshop operational tips. #11: Susan is NOT so Lazy

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Blog entry by LittleBlackDuck posted 06-30-2019 02:08 PM 620 reads 0 times favorited 14 comments Add to Favorites Watch
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Boys and Girls,

Got inspired by majuvla’s Lazy Susan wheel, to give an alternative use of these balerina imitators, that does not involve feeding my face.

Their conversion from lazy to active doesn’t have to be pretty and can be very functional in both the household as well as the workshop. You do not have to frequent Chinese restaurants and master chop sticks to appreciate the use of these lethargic rotating marvels. To remove the languorous tag, I will henceforth refer to them with the active title of turntables (without the vynil).

I keep a collection of turntables in my workshop, just in case I need to take some new creation of mine for a spin,

For the more budget conscious, here is a breakdown of the shekesl you may need to part with if you dare to venture down this path, though you may need to move to Australia to take advantage of our local bargains.

Locally (Australia) they come in 3(+1) flavours,
  1. Circular aluminium turntable,

    with screw holes for base attachment and soft suction cups to balance a top table (very glass-top friendly).
    They range from 120mm ($8.75) to 450mm ($38.10). The large one’s load rating is around 300kg and is 8mm thick.
  2. Circular Heavy Duty steel ball bearing turntable,

    These range from 8” ($12.90) and 12” ($18.00). They are rated at 450kg and 12mm thick.
  3. Square Heavy Duty steel ball bearing turntable,

    These range from 3” ($5.00) to 6” ($6.40). The 6” is rated at near 230kg.
  4. There is a similar stainless steel version

    available from Bunning, 6” ($30.00). Going by the impression of it’s quality, I’m guessing it could take significant weight (if you can balance anything on them). May be shiny, but the bling not being visible, wouldn’t justify the extra cost.

For those that have not exposure to a Lazy Susan (sorry turntable), here is a view of the top side,

and her (temporarily reverting back to the Susan nomenclature) bottom,

If you look closely,

they have a hole designed to permit access for screws to attach the top table to the turntable. You will need to drill an appropriate aligned hole in the bottom table

to fasten the top with the screws.

The aluminium versions willl also require the hole in the bottom table. The turntable is designed to rest the top table on and lacks screw holes…

the soft cup’s plug holes do not go all the way through

so if secure attachment is required, you’ll have to drill and countersink at least 3 screw holes… suggest masking of the turntable to keep swarf out of bearings.

This is my goto heavy duty turntable for the workshop. Extensively used when light sanding (heavy sanding may make the work unstable), staining, painting etc…

The top and bottom table have holes for rotation locking at 90° using 3/8” bolts,

There are also two onboard door stops (held on by dowels),

that can be used to “lock” the tables at any rotation

to limit movement when a little heavy handed work is performed.

The prime use is in the paint shop as pieces can easily be rotated to get that ever elusive access angle,

I have also mounted some of my miscellaneous small tools for easier access,

In the house I use one on my entertainment tower,

to provide easy access to those ever increasing cables,

and use a door stopper to stop free rotation,

it also made assembly and painting easier,

And to get access to my TV,

whenever plugs need to be changed or added,

Another project I made use of the turntable was for the display of my boat. As the port side was open to reveal the insides of the Bounty, the turntable made it easy to display it in 360° view,

A hint for centre mounting the turntable to “panels” for screwing. I cut MDF circles with the same diameter of the inner “hole” and using a dowel in the panel,

the turntable can be centered,

this same method can be used if the top and bottom tables are not the same size, otherwise they can simply be clamped for screwing.

If you didn’t like this article, you could still make a turntable, stand on it and spin around till you get so dizzy as to forget what you have just read.

-- If your first cut is too short... Take the second cut from the longer end... LBD



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splintergroup

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#1 posted 06-30-2019 02:16 PM

Dang Duck, I’d call you “lasy”, but I can’t 8^)

Those aluminum versions look really nice! I like the low cost of the stamped steel versions, but their noise and general cheddar-ness always bums me out for fine projects. Do the Al-u-mini-um parts turn as smoothly and quietly as they look?

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woodshaver Tony C

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#2 posted 06-30-2019 02:32 PM

Great blog LBD!
This is how I use one and sometimes I use it to display my project.

-- St Augustine FL, Experience is the sum of our mistakes!

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#3 posted 06-30-2019 02:58 PM


.... Do the Al-u-mini-um parts turn as smoothly and quietly as they look…
—splintergroup

They do turn smoother and quieter as it’s steel against aluminium and not steel against steel. However, the difference is marginal as I use lithium grease which quietens it down. The main difference is that the aluminium comes in a larger diameter and is attractive when used with a glass top. I tend to reserve the stamped steel ones for workshop use and “friends” that are hesitant in paying for some of the cost for projects I do for them.

I also stand corrected as the large aluminium is rated at 300kg and the pressed steel at 450kg. Profile may be a consideration as the aluminium is nearly 4mm thicker than the steel.


.... and sometimes I use it to display my project.
- woodshaver Tony C

Thanks ’shaver’. That’s another great use of them that I have overlooked… gratitude for the heads up and I’ll update the blog.

My experience has been that most people who use them, seem to limit the use to kitchenware/food and not so much in the workshop.

And then there are the few that either aren’t aware of their availability or too scared to try them…. IT’s for these that I posted the blog.

-- If your first cut is too short... Take the second cut from the longer end... LBD

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#4 posted 06-30-2019 04:08 PM

Oh wait…..I forgot I have one in my shop also!
.
!

-- St Augustine FL, Experience is the sum of our mistakes!

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#5 posted 06-30-2019 10:35 PM



Oh wait…..I forgot I have one in my shop also!
- woodshaver Tony C

Where do you hire that great hand model?

-- If your first cut is too short... Take the second cut from the longer end... LBD

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#6 posted 06-30-2019 10:54 PM


Oh wait…..I forgot I have one in my shop also!
- woodshaver Tony C

Where do you hire that great hand model?

- LittleBlackDuck

LOL! “great hand model” It’s my hand silly!

-- St Augustine FL, Experience is the sum of our mistakes!

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LittleBlackDuck

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#7 posted 07-01-2019 05:58 AM



..... It s my hand silly!.....
- woodshaver Tony C

OK, I’ll hand it to you… all my producers hire boot models!

-- If your first cut is too short... Take the second cut from the longer end... LBD

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#8 posted 07-02-2019 09:14 AM

I hope Degoose is watching, this is where the term Lazy Larry came from!

-- Regards Rob

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LittleBlackDuck

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#9 posted 07-02-2019 10:11 PM


I hope Degoose is watching, this is where the term Lazy Larry came from!

- robscastle


Don’t know the gentleman, but I do know de goose is a slack bird…

-- If your first cut is too short... Take the second cut from the longer end... LBD

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robscastle

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#10 posted 07-03-2019 01:14 AM

You know him, or know of him, you possibly didnt recognise the name.

https://www.lumberjocks.com/degoose

-- Regards Rob

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LittleBlackDuck

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#11 posted 07-03-2019 01:53 AM



You know him, or know of him, you possibly didnt recognise the name.

https://www.lumberjocks.com/degoose

- robscastle


Ah dat goose!

-- If your first cut is too short... Take the second cut from the longer end... LBD

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#12 posted 07-03-2019 07:49 PM



I hope Degoose is watching, this is where the term Lazy Larry came from!

- robscastle


easy buddy i dont know about degoose but i kinda take offence to that term ! ive been called many things my many people but only the wife calls me lazy-lol.

-- sawdust the bigger the pile the bigger my smile-larry,so cal.

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LittleBlackDuck

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#13 posted 07-03-2019 09:07 PM


ive been called many things my many people but only the wife calls me lazy-lol.
- pottz

There you go pottzy, I’ve called you every adjective under the sun, but never lazy… so are we still friends?

I’m prepared to change my sex to Californian and help you fend off those bleligerant Aussies!

-- If your first cut is too short... Take the second cut from the longer end... LBD

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#14 posted 07-03-2019 10:03 PM


ive been called many things my many people but only the wife calls me lazy-lol.
- pottz

There you go pottzy, I ve called you every adjective under the sun, but never lazy… so are we still friends?

I m prepared to change my sex to Californian and help you fend off those bleligerant Aussies!

- LittleBlackDuck


you do come up with some good ones duckie but always with respect,your still good with me.i may have to get richard back and have a talk with RC though-lol.

-- sawdust the bigger the pile the bigger my smile-larry,so cal.

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