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Sideways picture - FIX

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Blog entry by LittleBlackDuck posted 06-28-2019 12:49 AM 2015 reads 1 time favorited 12 comments Add to Favorites Watch

Boys and Girls,

There seems to be an abundance of sideways pictures being posted here at LJ.

This proliferation may be attributed to many members upgrading their phones/cameras to a more innovative counterpart.

Unfortunately some upgrades may come with a hidden agenda… sideways pictures... Without trying to preach to the uninitiated, below is a 6 point plan to rectify the problem.

Regardless of what you take the picture with… when the picture is stored, many devices record METADATA (some may know it as XMP, EXIF, IPTC, etc.) which includes the picture orientation as taken. When it is viewed with some phones, PC, tablet or any other computing mechanism, the software in it will often recognise the METADATA orientation and automatically correct it while viewing. When the photo is uploaded to LJ, this METADATA is probably stripped off and the picture is presented in the default picture taker’s orientation… which is normally landscape by default…

What needs to be done,
  1. Upload the picture.
    Hit the [PREVIEW] button,
  2. If the picture is correct way up (some phones may automatically correct it for you during upload), no further action is required… otherwise continue with the next step.
  3. Remove the metadata. Most photo editing software will do this when the photo is saved… You may need to manipulate the photo (resize) before the save for the metadata change to be registered.
    You may need to search Google for your operating system, however, here is a quick link returned when searching on resizing pictures under windows and may save some time.
    Alternatively download this FREE bit of software. The FREE version will remove METADATA from pictures only (JPG, PNG, BMP).
  4. Now having removed the METADATA, before you hit the [Post this entry] button, the viewed picture (on your device) should now look like how we would see it at LJ. Rotate your picture till it is the right way up. NOTE: You still have to rotate the picture before uploading. Removing the METADATA will NOT automatically rotate the picture for you.
  5. Now if the photo on your viewer still appears the right way up (while the LJ copy is sideways), don’t cuss LJ as it’s probably your “smart” viewer, download what you uploaded to LJ, which should now appear sideways on your viewer and rotate that.
  6. Delete your original upload and re-upload the new rotated picture.

I apologise in not providing further assistance as I still maintain my blatantly REFUSEAL to viewing articles with sideways post and have been guilty of encouraging other jocks and ‘ettes to do the same. If you posses better fortitude than me and do view sideways picture postings, a lot of LJ members would appreciate you directing the author to this corrective action.
To simplify notification, just cut and paste the following text into a separate document that you can then directly paste into your comment,

Please refer to “Sideways picture – FIX”

https://www.lumberjocks.com/LittleBlackDuck/blog/129914

While on the “roll”, you may get some benefit out of Posting high res pictures.

-- If your first cut is too short... Take the second cut from the longer end... LBD



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Redoak49

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#1 posted 06-28-2019 01:40 AM

Thank you and I hope it helps some people. However, I am not taking wagers that it will help.

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oldrivers

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#2 posted 06-28-2019 01:44 AM

Thanks Duck I hope some folk will heed your correction process.

-- Soli Deo gloria!

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LittleBlackDuck

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#3 posted 06-28-2019 02:27 AM



..., I am not taking wagers that it will help.
- Redoak49

I will, but my ante is on the against… however, I hear rumors that miracles still happen… even in woodworking!

-- If your first cut is too short... Take the second cut from the longer end... LBD

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#4 posted 07-02-2019 09:21 PM

-- Regards Rob

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gtrgeo

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#5 posted 06-02-2020 04:41 PM

Thanks!!

I was frustrated the last time I posted a pic and this happened. Thankfully the orientation did not matter for what I had posted.

I found that by playing around with the existing software on my PC (Paint 3D) I could just open with the editing software and “Save As” in a folder I created for posting on the web it corrected the problem. I assume that process removed the metadata as you indicate.

Thanks Again!!

George

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LittleBlackDuck

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#6 posted 06-02-2020 09:19 PM

Thanks gt for taking the effort to read and action… I for one appreciate your effort.

-- If your first cut is too short... Take the second cut from the longer end... LBD

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James E McIntyre

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#7 posted 09-14-2020 10:30 PM

Nice informative post.
I don’t think the clown you left in the corner was the one you claimed to release.
Oh well maybe he should stay there. I never liked old stinky men dressed like clowns anyway.

I’ll post a photo to keep you happy.

-- James E McIntyre

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#8 posted 11-05-2020 08:16 AM



Thank you and I hope it helps some people. However, I am not taking wagers that it will help.

- Redoak49


That was a smart bet… with all the latest sidaways pictures, if you bet against, you’d be richer than The Donald... and maybe heading the nation.

-- If your first cut is too short... Take the second cut from the longer end... LBD

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Lazyman

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#9 posted 01-10-2021 04:13 PM

I followed your link from someone else’s post. An easier way to fix rotated pics rather than using software to remove the metadata is to simply edit and rotate them manually. In Windows, simply open the photo app and double click the image that is giving a problem when uploaded into LJ. At the top of the viewer window that opens is a button to rotate the image. Click that until it appears in the correct orientation. EDIT: I’ve only done this in Windows 7 so I am not sure if Win10 works the same way exactly.

Another option for those who are posting directly from their ipad or iphone is to similarly view the photo in the photo app and tap edit. In edit mode, make any small crop of the image and save. When you upload to LJ, it will be in the orientation it was when you saved it. If you do this before you upload it, you won’t have to do the edit in Windows.

-- Nathan, TX -- Hire the lazy man. He may not do as much work but that's because he will find a better way.

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LittleBlackDuck

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#10 posted 01-10-2021 08:50 PM


I followed your link from someone else s post. An easier way to fix rotated pics rather than using software to remove the metadata is to simply edit and rotate them manually. In Windows, simply open the photo app and double click the image that is giving a problem when uploaded into LJ. At the top of the viewer window that opens is a button to rotate the image. Click that until it appears in the correct orientation. EDIT: I ve only done this in Windows 7 so I am not sure if Win10 works the same way exactly.

Another option for those who are posting directly from their ipad or iphone is to similarly view the photo in the photo app and tap edit. In edit mode, make any small crop of the image and save. When you upload to LJ, it will be in the orientation it was when you saved it. If you do this before you upload it, you won t have to do the edit in Windows.

- Lazyman


Good pickup Lazy... In my many plights to eradicate sideways picture I believe I had mentioned that simple method a few times, however, in this ”consolidation” I have omitted it…
Probably out of frustration when smashing shit out of my keyboard when infuriatedly drafting this article after a generous 4 or 5 sideways picture projects posted in one day by other members…

PS. I do believe that my omission of this was influenced by either,
  • Some editors do not strip of metadata on a simple rotate and save and require certain minimal changes… the software still retains the metadata and authors either couldn’t be bothered to draft read their articles or just continue to ignore the rotation.
  • Too much vino!

PPS. Just re-read my blog (ugh… hate reading) to update my blog. I believe my point 3 kind of covers your suggestion though not as succinctly… Hey, I’m the son of a Hungarian fern cutter!

-- If your first cut is too short... Take the second cut from the longer end... LBD

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Madmark2

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#11 posted 01-10-2021 09:12 PM

Whenever I see a noob having problems posting pics I send them a short “crop & resave” note as a PM so as not to embarrass said noob in public …

LBD:
Most phones default the metadata to portrait as most pics are of people, not things. Since folks tend to take project pics in landscape, thing pics appear rotated. I know YOU know this, I was just chiming in to the peanut gallery! WEG

-- The hump with the stump and the pump!

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LittleBlackDuck

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#12 posted 01-10-2021 10:52 PM


LBD:
Most phones default the metadata to portrait as most pics are of people, not things. Since folks tend to take project pics in landscape, thing pics appear rotated. I know YOU know this, I was just chiming in to the peanut gallery! WEG

- Madmark2


What just annoys me is that people spend countless hours on their projects, post it and don’t question the orientation and expect everyone else to be happy…

I’m a grump and not happy… But what frustrates me even more is that there are probably great projects out there that I refuse to look at because of my stubbornness and with the regularity got sick and tired of commenting…

I have a lot of respect for people that notice the sideways pic and ask why?

-- If your first cut is too short... Take the second cut from the longer end... LBD

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