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Blog entry by LittleBlackDuck posted 02-14-2019 01:47 AM 826 reads 0 times favorited 7 comments Add to Favorites Watch

Girls and Boys, if you think you are seeing double and have that sense of deja vu, you are not loosing your mind… or you may have fallen foul of attempting to view sideways pictures and have suffered a brain leak or two.

This was originally posted as a Project… While I was aware of the law, I didn’t realise that it is rigorously enforce and I could potentially face a jail sentence. Consequently it has been moved to this forum.

Unfortunately if you took the effort to make a comment, your words of wisdom missed getting etched onto a tablet and if you want to be imortalised, you’ll have to repeat it here.

For the non-deja vunians, read on.

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Boys and Girls, I have very few brains and I just cannot afford to lose any more.

I have posted this article as there are far too many picture posted here at LJ that just don’t have the courage to stand on their own feet. I for one blatantly refuse to read an article that presents sideways pictures. Now that may be a bonus for the poster but it is selfish of me as I’m certain to be missing out on many great articles because of this technicality.

I greatly suffer from Brain Drain every time I have to tilt my head to view those sideways posted photographs. I can feel my grey matter leaking out of my bottom ear… it is impossible to survive mixing that practice with my vino!

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While this project is not made of wood, the strata that my brain spills out on is. Furthermore I post it here as it will get greater exposure than in a humble blog.
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The issue arises when people take photos with their phones or cameras in portrait orientation. Fortunately with my girth all my photos (height or width) have to be taken in landscape… stitched (for width)... so no orientation issue!

All (most) cameras except my ancient Agfa Clack,

store metadata along with the image. One bit of metadata stored is the picture orientation. So when you view it on your PC or phone/camera the orientation is interpreted and it is displayed upright as opposed to correct way up.

When uploaded to LJ, the software running either strips off the metadata or just ignores it and the picture is displayed the correct correct way up. So if you took it in portrait you’ll post it as a gutter crawler…. ya gotta get in first!

Now if you suffer this fate, try this first,
  • Before upload (or after the oopsie is detected), using your image manipulator (you should know what app you have… may even be a Windows/Mac default), resize, crop and/or maybe rotate the image and save it. Hopefully the save process will alter the orientation metadata and the picture will be displayed as it would appear after an upload. You may immediately notice that the image HAS to be rotated there and then!
If the above dexterous activity fails to rehabilitate that mongrel picture, try one of these three ways,
  1. Get the audience to download the picture to their PCs so they can rotate each photo to observe it’s intended reflection… I don’t think so!
  2. Upload it to LJ, make the effort to look at it in preview mode. If it has fallen over, download it to your PC, use Windows or Mac picture viewer and correct orientation by rotating the right way up. Delete the original uploaded one and re-upload your corrected one. Couldn’t be more simpler (hmmm)!
  3. Yes it could… Remove the metadata. Do a bit of WEB searching for metadata strippers (don’t forget the metadata in the search engine).
    Now I’m not here to spruik a particular product, however, if you hate reading as much as I do, I’ll save you some trouble, but feel free to do your own thing (other than post disoriented photos). I use one called BatchPurifier that will cleanse you picture of all it’s blemishes (metadata)... and may even put clothes on some.
    Fortunately there is a FREE version of BatchPurifier LITE that only removes metadata from JPG files (so you may have to convert your PNG and BMP to JPG)... but then again that’s all we want.

FYI… A bit of metadata background. If your happy-snapper is guilty of metadata sublimation this is CAT scan of the image’s (taken with a Samsung phone in portrait mode) brain before a resize operation using ThumbsPlus… try ignore the ThumbsPlus mention as it was thrown in just to further confuse the confused and it’s the image manipulating app I use,

Take note of the dimensions and orientation settings.
I don’t for the life of me know what Right-Top exatly means, but as a layman interpretation I’m guessing it refers to the right side of the picture is placed at the top.

I did a resize to 1,200 pixels… for posting on LJ, I always resize my pictures to 1,2000 pixels along the longer dimension. Max upload is 5M for LJ, however 5M and 130K will display the same sized image so why waste that additional uplioad time and clutter the LJ server (unless it compresses).

This is the resultant CAT scan,

compare the orientation and dimension settings. Also note that the x and Y axis have changed… HMM! elementary dear Watson!

OK, If you are still confused, the bottom line is that the metadata controls viewing orientation during normal operation. If you took the picture in portrait… it must be manipulated before upload.

Disclaimer. I believe that for photos uploaded directly from a phone, the software compensates for the orientation and the picture will be presented correctly… otherwise back to the drawing board and re-read the above.

PS. Even if you pass the Disclaimer, and have a buddy that is guilty of this crime, do us all a favor and send him this way…. saves you repeating it and our leakage.

-- If your first cut is too short... Take the second cut from the longer end... LBD



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lightweightladylefty

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#1 posted 02-14-2019 04:58 AM

I read this on your projects post last night but didn’t comment. As I looked at the projects tonight and noticed another sideways photo, I had a suggestion: Comment on the project post with something like this:

I noticed you are having problems with posting your photos in the correct orientation. Perhaps this would help you:
http://lumberjocks.com/LittleBlackDuck/blog/129377

Just my two cents worth.

L/W

-- Jesus is the ONLY reason for ANY season.

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LittleBlackDuck

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#2 posted 02-14-2019 07:35 AM

Hi L/W, I truly appreciate your suggestion, but with the amount of sideways posting, I’d be spending half my life making that comment and not paying attention to more deserving posts.

In the past, when I used to view some sideways posts if they took my fancy, I did do something similar, though it was making a comment in one and then referencing to that comment in other blogs.
Not trying to be smart, but as I may have mentioned I now refuse to view those posts which would make it difficult to place the comment.

If people are too lazy to either read this (though in fairness the topic does not telegraph the underlying issue) or try to fathom why they are posting their pictures sideways when other are not, unfortunately this is as far as I’m prepared to go.

I re-posted this blog after the project got deleted. Fortunately Cricket kept a copy of the text so I didn’t have to reinvent my wheel.

Personally if just a handful of “guilty” authors reap some benefit from this I will be content. I have no intention to continue with this crusade in the future.

-- If your first cut is too short... Take the second cut from the longer end... LBD

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Redoak49

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#3 posted 02-14-2019 11:55 AM

I will repost my earlier comments here.

I do not read posts blogs, projects, etc where the pictures are posted sideways. I am too old and I cannot easily bend my neck. If you are proud of your project, be proud of the post and take time to do it right.

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pottz

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#4 posted 02-14-2019 02:44 PM

youve always been a criminal duck and the long arm of the law finally came down on you.hopefully this will straighten you out to a better life-lol. maybe if everyone stopped responding to the sideways pic’s people would start fixing the problem,but most here make nice comments and say nothing so the lazy one’s never bother to correct it.

-- sawdust the bigger the pile the bigger my smile-larry,so cal.

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GR8HUNTER

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#5 posted 02-14-2019 04:06 PM



I will repost my earlier comments here.

I do not read posts blogs, projects, etc where the pictures are posted sideways. I am too old and I cannot easily bend my neck. If you are proud of your project, be proud of the post and take time to do it right.

- Redoak49

VERY WELL SAID DITTO ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ :<))))))))))

-- Tony---- Reinholds,Pa.------ REMEMBER TO ALWAYS HAVE FUN

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Peteybadboy

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#6 posted 02-14-2019 09:48 PM

Thanks for the help. Took me about an hr to fix my photos this am.

-- Petey

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LittleBlackDuck

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#7 posted 02-15-2019 05:32 AM


Thanks for the help. Took me about an hr to fix my photos this am.

- Peteybadboy


Hey Petey’ I’m glad it help and I thank you… while it took some time you made the effort.

I appreciate you taking the “time”... as we get older, that’s one helluva expensive resource!

-- If your first cut is too short... Take the second cut from the longer end... LBD

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