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How I rescued my Portable Drill Press

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Blog entry by LittleBlackDuck posted 02-01-2019 11:01 AM 1169 reads 0 times favorited 13 comments Add to Favorites Watch

Boys and Girls,

One of the best drills I owned in the past was this Triton drill.

However, it goes back to the days when men weren’t pansies and had the fortitude of lifting up a heavy cordless drill in one hand. While every time I picked it up, I got a better workout than competing in a triathlon, the battery started to develop an inferiority complex…

Though after 12 or so years I’m not surprised, it’d be cheaper to send the missus of for a boob job (both of them) rather than repack the 2 Triton batteries. While I was still in Melbourne (about 9 year ago) it cost me about $80 each to have them repacked… recently I was quoted $200+ per kick starter and as the batteries haven’t been available for over 8 years the boob job seemed more economic.

Now you all might ask what’s so special about this compact “exerciser” equipment? Well I hear ya… while it weighed well over 3Kg (with the battery), it had its own built in drill press.

To all you smarties that can drill a stand alone vertical hole using a hand held drill… I congratulate you, however even using the mirror trick,

I still get greater angles than with a badly tuned compound mitre saw.

Yes there are “stand alone” drill press simulator attachments…

with a keyed chuck to boot… keys?… for goodness sake, I’m led to believe that even chastity belts don’t use a key anymore!... and I’d rather struggle up some stairs with the recalcitrant hose of a vacuum cleaner, the cord wrapped around my feet and the dog jumping up and down on me, than trying to embrace one of those BS gizmos… I needed 3 shaves between starting to mount, drill and dismount the drill (and my beard still hasn’t matured into a fast growth).

Now I had a shizen load of Ryobi batteries that just refused to slip into the Triton’s orifice no matter how hard I tried and even the threat of a sex change refused co-opreation. Not being a vegetarian, I asked my local sparkie if he had any thought of retro fitting a Ryobi battery to the Triton.

Well… the first take of connecting rods with a couple of rolls of duct tape was a total failure (forgot to take a picture)… fortunately the battery was already cactus so dropping it on concrete didn’t adversely affect it’s life expectancy. I then mentioned that as I only want to use the Triton as a one trick pony, just to drill vertical holes away from my normal drill press (and not have to shovel up the pony’s manure).

I suggested that maybe the Ryobi battery could simply be connected to the Triton drill by some cable. As the demand was “one off” job(s), I could handle the battery sitting on the bench and setting up the drill separately for the plunge operation.

He gutted one of the Triton batteries and soldered some wires to the terminals inside the battery pack’s neck.

He then soldered some of these type of terminal connectors

to the other end of the cable so that somehow they could be gaffer taped to the Ryobi terminals.
Hell that’s too much work (the taping) and as I had some Ryobi battery storage mounts,

decided to 3D print one so that the terminals could be slipped in the gap, from underneath the mount, for circuit contact.

Now there is an order in which the terminal connection has to be made… one config worked, while swapping the wires did diddly squat. Now being colour blind, I couldn’t tell the difference between the blue and brown wires so I used some dymo labels to ensure correct order for the manual fittings…

hey I’m not stupid… the dymo tape was black and white!
It was then that my sparkie informed me that the Triton was orange in colour and not the green I insisted it was…
Just kidding about colour blind… after all I can recognise red vino.

Now this still required some manual intervention and no longer having to lift that heavy drill/battery I was not eager to get any alternative exercise by additional wiring manipulation.

I superglued the terminals to the mounting block and after taking 1 hour to separate my fingers, I decided to try using hot glue instead. Now the hot glue melted the 3D printed mount, however, it turned out that I managed to get a more than satisfactory bond… for both terminals,

I then filled up the batter pack’s neck cavity with hot glue to ensure that I didn’t accidentally break the soldered connection as all my past soldering endevours sucked.

Reassembled the Ryobi battery pack and attached the cables via the 3D printed mounting plate to the Ryobi battery,

Now I again have my portable stand-alone drill press,

Not only that, it has a “stilt” attachment for those longer spade bit… bloody clever these Aussies (Triton range of products was an Aussie inovation)…

Hell, I could use this method to resurrect all my old battery operated items.
Maybe I could resurrect my old drinking bear toy,

So I won’t have to drink vino by myself… with 18V instead of the original 6V, it’ll be able to keep up!

If you weren’t inspired by reading the above, tough, as I didn’t make a video to save you the hassle of reading.

-- If your first cut is too short... Take the second cut from the longer end... LBD



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Dutchy

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#1 posted 02-01-2019 11:30 AM

I didn’t read the hole story, but not a problem, Teddy has told me the hole story, just a little incoherent. Maybe he drunk to much?

-- https://dutchypatterns.com/

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BlueRidgeDog

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#2 posted 02-01-2019 01:57 PM

You should just make your own cell pack to put back in there. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCAcWZV0Cpw or similar.

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Redoak49

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#3 posted 02-01-2019 03:14 PM

Another epic tale from down under.

Did the missus read the story and how does she feel?

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robscastle

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#4 posted 02-01-2019 04:03 PM

Alex
Have you still got a spare Triton battery pack available? I might be able to get abreast of things.

I have a 6V LED torch that only Clive Palmer could afford to buy batteries for.

The batteries were worth/cost more than the initial torch purchase price.

So with a piece of EPE and two 18650s I fixed it. No doubt you could 3D a better holder.

The fix.

Now without considering just how much can a Koala bear I may be possibly able to get yours drinking again.

I couldnt possibly sign off and let this project get forgotten.

For any of the nannies amongst us a tamer version

-- Regards Rob

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metolius

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#5 posted 02-01-2019 06:19 PM

That’s a good read.

I’ve thought about putting new life into out-of-print battery tools by replacing the battery pack with a 20V transformer that could be wall-plugged.

Everything seemed much easier in the story of using an external other-brand battery until it got to 3D printing battery sockets.

nice job.

-- derek / oregon

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NormG

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#6 posted 02-02-2019 12:28 AM

What a great solution to keep an awesome drill in use

-- Norman - I never never make a mistake, I just change the design.

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LittleBlackDuck

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#7 posted 02-02-2019 02:14 AM


... just make your own cell pack to put back in there…

- BlueRidgeDog


Thought about it BRG, talked about it, dreamt about it, but at the end of the day, everything seemed just too much for my initial desire to just use it for drilling remote vertical holes… now if I drilled thousands in one got, it may have been worth while, but for those 2 a year jobs there would have been little payback for the effort… excluding any satisfaction from packing my own battery.
I have stuck to the reflective mirror principle over the years, but last time when I needed to drill a hole that I didn’t have a suitable pre drilled mirror and realised I had run out of plastic mirror tiles, the need for this drill raised it’s ugly head again.
rc

Alex
Have you still got a spare Triton battery pack available? ....
- robscastle

I do have another rc, but as it is illegal, I’m gonna hide it in a can of green paint and throw it out with my greenwaste bin. After all there’s only room in the drill for one battery at a time. Tried fitting two to get a beefier (Tim the Toolman Taylor) kick, but it finished up looking like the south end of a north bound Angus bull…

Excluding my drill presses (yeah es’s) and the Triton, I have 8 other drills that in totally probably weight only a gram or 2 more than the Triton by itself (including 1 battery). While I’ve been known not to begrudge spending a shekel or two, it only cost me under $2 for the cable, terminal connectors, solder and the 3D print material… and about 15 minutes tinkering (excluding the 2.5 hours background 3D print time).
Also without fessing up to being a wuss, without the added battery weight it makes the use soooo much more pleasurable!!

As for the boob jobs… where do you insert the battery?

And as for Clive and the torch… Well in my opinion if he bent over… the light would be in reverse!


.... until it got to 3D printing battery sockets….

- metolius


Hey ’toli’, I only threw in the 3D printed “sockets” cause I already had the STL (3D printing diagram) file and a 3D printer lurking around in some dark corner of the house… it’s just an optional extravagance that I occasionally throw in to try an extoll the benefits of 3D printing in a workshop… CNC’s seem to have already proven their worth and lasers are leaving a footprint in the sawdust.
You could just as ”easily’ (he says without trying) heat up a 25mm PVC pipe offcut), shape it as a terminal collar and glue the wires inside it so it could slip snugly over the external battery terminal… hell, might even try that myself next time… this “solution” was designed to minimise the cable attachment to the foreign terminal’s procedure.


... awesome drill…

- NormG


You summed tit up in one word N’G (wel, actually 2 above)... For it’s time, it was an awesome drill. I just can’t understand why other manufacturers haven’t incorporated the concept in at least one of their drill models… as it’s no longer available and I’m sure any pattents have expired.

-- If your first cut is too short... Take the second cut from the longer end... LBD

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robscastle

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#8 posted 02-02-2019 10:32 PM

Dont you just hate that when that hapens.

Triton a victim of the GFC and our bungling leaders sadly

I would be interested in finding out the true facts behind GMC (their batteries used to fit) and Triton being sunk by Bunnings and then the attempt by Masters and now Carba Tec to resurrect them.

No doubt George is glad to be out of it, maybe we should ask Degoose if he has managed to locate him.

As for patents from what I know CMT Orange tools now produces the Legendary Triton Router branded CMT.
Interestingly enough the original Carbi Tool 3D Router (Melb) is also peddled as CMT now.

-- Regards Rob

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pottz

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#9 posted 02-03-2019 03:05 AM

oh my god you ausie’s drive me to drink.just throw that worn out old crap in the trash and get something up to date guys.now duckie first get the misses that boob job,not for her but your selfish needs,ok,then get a cask of that cheap high octane vino you like and kick back and forgetta bout it

-- working with my hands is a joy,it gives me a sense of fulfillment,somthing so many seek and so few find.-SAM MALOOF.

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LittleBlackDuck

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#10 posted 02-03-2019 07:02 AM



oh my god you ausie s drive me to drink.just throw that worn out old crap in the trash…

- pottz


Bite your pottz bellied tongue you heathen… The drill may be crap, but the plunge feature is priceless. I may only use it once or twice a year, but I don’t have to stuff around with jigs, guides, straight edges… or vino to smooth out the curves…

PS. AFter that comment… you can drive yourself to the pub!

-- If your first cut is too short... Take the second cut from the longer end... LBD

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LittleBlackDuck

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#11 posted 02-10-2019 11:59 PM


.....You could just as ”easily” (he says without trying) heat up a 25mm PVC pipe offcut), shape it as a….. hell, might even try that myself next tim…..

- LittleBlackDuck


Couldn’t sit on my laurels (thought I’d use that word to keep it clean, which in Hungarian is a word for big fat arse), so I had to try my theory.

Looked through my pile of PVC pipes for a close fit and found one that fit exactly (35mm ID, 38mm OD) without the need for the heat gun.

Haven’t soldered any wires or glued the terminals to the pipe (wasn’t needed as it just slips in),

PS. Must admit I didn’t find any PVC pipes to suit a Milwaukee or Makita battery… DOH! (I you own any of those batteries you’ll know what I mean… wink, wink)!

PPS. I again stress that this is not to bring an old tools back to life but to breath some activity into it for that occasional use.

-- If your first cut is too short... Take the second cut from the longer end... LBD

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robscastle

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#12 posted 02-13-2019 12:34 AM

Hey LBD I am not sure about the occasional use fix but mine are permament as far as I am concerned.

Torch No 1 I will use to check my batteries when I loose power and find the phone in the dark so I can phone a friend in Churchill!

the other,
Torch no 2 I will use to find stuff in the bedroom.

If they go flat (discharged) I will simply charge them back up again.

-- Regards Rob

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LittleBlackDuck

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#13 posted 02-13-2019 05:47 AM


..... but mine are permament…..
- robscastle

rc, I have 8 drills that in total nearly weigh less than the Triton. Even if fully operational, I’d probably still have my other 8 drills and only use the Triton as a pseudo-drill press (allbeit without the cable and remote battery).

Funny you should mention it (titter, titter), amongst all my hoarding collectibles (tape measures, rulers, box cutters, head loupes, routers, sanders, planes) torches have their place in the queue.

I have one of these in practically every corner of the house and workshop,

They are a great alternative for all those 1/2 discharged 9V smoke alarm batteries that you are advised to change twice a year.


Torch no 2 I will use to find stuff in the bedroom.
- robscastle

Just sprinkle pepper in your jocks… when you hear a sneeze, you’ve found it!

-- If your first cut is too short... Take the second cut from the longer end... LBD

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