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Blog entry by LeeRoyMan posted 12-02-2019 03:23 AM 708 reads 0 times favorited 34 comments Add to Favorites Watch

Nothing that you probably haven’t already seen many times before, but here is my version.

These are for the Blum brand undermount guides.

5/8” Baltic Birch sides with 1/2” Baltic Birch bottoms. (Pre- Finished Material)
Front and back rabbets leave 1/4×1/4 tenon, with corresponding dado in the sides.
Bottoms are recessed 1/2” up from bottom.
Inside drawer dimensions are 1 5/8” smaller than opening size. (Instructions call out 42mm)
Still need to drill the mounting holes in the backs.
I will sand and poly the top edges of the drawers as well.

Notes:
Sides and front are full height, the back is cut to the interior depth of the drawer.
Most people do this so they can slide the bottom in after they build the drawer.
I like to nail the back to the bottom and build it that way as you can see in the pictures.
I also cut my bottoms about 1/64 smaller in width than the front and backs
that way they don’t interfere with the sides closing tight.
I glue the bottoms in.



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#1 posted 12-02-2019 11:26 AM



I also cut my bottoms about 1/64 smaller in width than the front and backs
- LeeRoyMan

But…you don’t have an Incra fence? Hogwash!!

No $60.00 Parallel clamps either.
Tight, clean work with a Bies and pipe clamps? I’m startin to wonder about you…

-- “Wise men speak because they have something to say; fools because they have to say something.” – Plato

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#2 posted 12-02-2019 02:36 PM

drawers are lookin real good,im also a pipe clamp guy,i mean anything that squeezes something together is a clamp,doesn’t need to fancy or expensive.

-- sawdust the bigger the pile the bigger my smile-larry,so cal.

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#3 posted 12-02-2019 03:37 PM


I also cut my bottoms about 1/64 smaller in width than the front and backs
- LeeRoyMan

But…you don t have an Incra fence? Hogwash!!

No $60.00 Parallel clamps either.
Tight, clean work with a Bies and pipe clamps? I m startin to wonder about you…

- Tony_S


You caught me. I actually can’t say for sure that it’a 1/64th of an inch. I had to take 20 minutes of bumping around the Bies until it looked right.

What’s wrong with pipe clamps?
I use parallel clamps whenever I use 2 pipe clamps, I try to make them as parallel as possible. ;)
If I had parallel clamps what would I do with these?
There’s about 75 of them, the cart will hold 105 so I need to go find some more.

I’m old school…(well old anyway)

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#4 posted 12-02-2019 03:39 PM

Thanks Pottz,
A lot of beginning woodworkers think building undermount drawers are difficult,
I just wanted to show that it’s really pretty simple.

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#5 posted 12-02-2019 07:06 PM

Drilling the holes in the back are easy peasy.
Measurements call out for a 6mm x 10mm deep hole 7/16” from the bottom, and 9/32 from the inside edge.

I make a little jig to mark the holes then use a 1/4” forstner bit to drill them. I just bury the head of the bit for the depth.

One other optional thing I like to do is,
take a flat head screw driver and punch the hole to give it wings.
I think this helps guide the hook into the hole if your drawer size is a little off.
(Another reason I do it is because I’m drilling a 1/4” hole instead of a 6mm hole.)
Definitely not necessary, just makes me think I have another trick is all…

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#6 posted 12-02-2019 11:46 PM

I have a bunch of pipe clamps you can have….you just have to come and get them :) I think there’s about 200 kicking around. Still use some of them, but not too often since the clamp carrier came around. Some are in pretty rough shape. Lots of miles on them….

Hand clamps….last count of the whole shop was about 700? You can’t have those though;)
Not a single parallel clamp though…too spendy for me.

-- “Wise men speak because they have something to say; fools because they have to say something.” – Plato

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#7 posted 12-03-2019 12:42 AM

Yeah, I figured you had a bunch.
I’ve never done stairs but I have seen them being done and it takes a buttload…

When I come to Canada, it won’t be to get your clamps, it will be to work for you, haha
I’ll probably be about 68 by then though.

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#8 posted 12-04-2019 12:21 AM



I ve never done stairs but I have seen them being done and it takes a buttload…

Here’s a partial buttload…


When I come to Canada, it won t be to get your clamps, it will be to work for you, haha
I ll probably be about 68 by then though.
- LeeRoyMan

So…next year then? :)
Shit…I’m only 52…but I sure as hell feel like 68 a lot of days.

-- “Wise men speak because they have something to say; fools because they have to say something.” – Plato

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#9 posted 12-04-2019 12:29 AM

now that’s a clamp up…..and up…..and up !

-- sawdust the bigger the pile the bigger my smile-larry,so cal.

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#10 posted 12-04-2019 01:19 AM


I ve never done stairs but I have seen them being done and it takes a buttload…

Here s a partial buttload…

When I come to Canada, it won t be to get your clamps, it will be to work for you, haha
I ll probably be about 68 by then though.
- LeeRoyMan

So…next year then? :)
Shit…I m only 52…but I sure as hell feel like 68 a lot of days.

- Tony_S


Yep, that’s a buttload. I’ve never had a buttload…. :>0

Man, I’m Jonesin, I wish I could come and work on that.
I like your template jig. (or whatever it is you call it )
I live for curves and angles and the challenge of figuring it out.

59 myself. As of the last 6 months or so, I’m startin to feel it.

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#11 posted 12-04-2019 11:28 AM



Man, I m Jonesin, I wish I could come and work on that.
I like your template jig. (or whatever it is you call it )
- LeeRoyMan

Just affectionately known as “The Jig”. It was an idea the the original owner of the company and I came up with about 25 years ago….since stolen by a couple(at least) of other companies. It’s a massive labor and real estate saver compared to how we originally built the bending jigs, which were horizontal and all screwed together.
Those could take anywhere from 4 to 8hrs to build, then tear down afterwards. With this, it’s up in less than an hour. We can also do multiple bends at one time. Most we’ve ever done is 6 stringers in 8 hrs. Had guys building walls as we were gluing up and bending stringers.

I can’t find any clear pics, but you can just barely see the arcs on the floor in this one. They radiate out in 3” increments with holes drilled in 4-6” incs along each radius. The ceiling, 14’ high, corresponds. The walls are nothing more than 2×4’s with pins on both ends. Insert pin at the top and drop the other in the floor. Plastic floor(1/2” puck board) to make glue cleanup easy.
These are fairly old pics and we’ve built a new one 10 or 12 years ago. It’s identical, but 50% larger.
Sorry for the highjack :)

-- “Wise men speak because they have something to say; fools because they have to say something.” – Plato

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#12 posted 12-04-2019 02:43 PM


Sorry for the highjack :)

- Tony_S


Are you kidding? Nobody gives a shit about a BB drawer box.
I would rather talk jigs and stringers all day long.

That’s a brilliant solution to the always changing layout.

Now, if your studs had pins, you could transfer your computer layout to the jig
using the appropriate pins for the angle of the dangle..
(just trying to look like I know what I’m talking about, but I don’t.) lol

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#13 posted 12-04-2019 02:58 PM


Sorry for the highjack :)

- Tony_S

Are you kidding? Nobody gives a shit about a BB drawer box.
I would rather talk jigs and stringers all day long.

That s a brilliant solution to the always changing layout.

Now, if your studs had pins, you could transfer your computer layout to the jig
using the appropriate pins for the angle of the dangle..
(just trying to look like I know what I m talking about, but I don t.) lol

- LeeRoyMan


hey i care,i doubt ill ever build a spiral stair case like tony does but ill probably make a bb drawer.never under estimate the interest in something LRM.

-- sawdust the bigger the pile the bigger my smile-larry,so cal.

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#14 posted 12-04-2019 03:17 PM


hey i care,i doubt ill ever build a spiral stair case like tony does but ill probably make a bb drawer.never under estimate the interest in something LRM.

- pottz

Thanks pottz, You’re a good dude.
But, the responses were less than overwhelming.
My next blog will be “How to build a push stick” ;)

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#15 posted 12-04-2019 05:51 PM

yeah even if it’s something i know how to do i always find something that’s maybe easier or better than how i do it,so i always like seeing how somebody else does it.
hey lookin forward to that push stick blog-lol.

-- sawdust the bigger the pile the bigger my smile-larry,so cal.

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