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Stanley 45 Combo Plane Overhaul #3: Awwww, don't be blue.

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Blog entry by HokieKen posted 01-25-2019 04:09 PM 886 reads 0 times favorited 14 comments Add to Favorites Watch
« Part 2: General Cleanup Part 3 of Stanley 45 Combo Plane Overhaul series Part 4: New Tote and Knob »

KelleyCrafts suggested that maybe this plane would look good if it were blued. I thought that was a great idea! Blued steel looks nice usually and it provides good corrosion prevention.

So I gave it a shot last night using the “No 45” section as a test bed.

Here you can see where I applied the blueing solution. I let the solution sit like this for about 30 seconds:

After 30 seconds, I rinsed the area with cold water to remove the solution then blew it dry with compressed air:

Then I took some 0000 steel wool and buffed the area a bit:

You can’t really tell any difference in the photos but the steel wool did knock down the high spots a bit and add a little depth in person. But, even in person, the difference is pretty negligible.

So, I’m looking for some feedback. I’m not gonna give my opinion yet because I don’t want to skew anyone else’s. What do you think? Should I blue the depressed areas? Should I blue the entire plane? Or should I leave the bare steel? Inquiring mind wants to know ;-)

-- Kenny, SW VA, Go Hokies!!!



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Brandon

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#1 posted 01-25-2019 04:18 PM

Me personally, I would leave the bare steal. In the pics, I don’t see enough of a difference to justify the extra work. Something that I do think would look cool, is to darken the steel under the letters, numbers, and design features, and then buff out the surface of them. I think it would look neat with bright shiny numbers and stuff with a darker background. But I don’t think it would look too good using paint. I think paint would pool up and look too “fake” is the only word I can think of to describe it. Maybe “amateurish”. I could be totally talking out my ass, but for some reason, I think I remember reading somewhere that you can darken steal like that using vinegar? I’m not really sure on this, but something is telling me I’ve read that somewhere before. Has anyone else ever heard of this?

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#2 posted 01-25-2019 04:26 PM

I would blue the depressed areas if it helps prevent future rust.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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#3 posted 01-25-2019 04:26 PM

I think it would make the detail of the “no 45” and the leaves and stems pop with a darkened in background

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#4 posted 01-25-2019 04:48 PM

I think the lettering stands out better after blueing.

-- Earl "I'm a pessamist - generally that increases the chance that things will turn out better than expected"

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#5 posted 01-25-2019 04:49 PM

Hmm. Is 30 seconds enough time? I don’t remember, but it looks like a pretty subtle change to me.

-- Dave - Minneapolis

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#6 posted 01-25-2019 04:50 PM

UUMMMM … is this 1 coat ? did you heat it up in oven first ? does not look that much different to me :<(((

-- Tony---- Reinholds,Pa.------ REMEMBER TO ALWAYS HAVE FUN

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#7 posted 01-25-2019 04:55 PM

Blue it all, buff off high points is my vote!

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. -- OldTools Archive --

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#8 posted 01-25-2019 05:00 PM

30 seconds is what the instructions on the solution say. And that is a single coat without heating the steel. Multiple applications will darken it. I didn’t want it any darker though.

I’ll go ahead and let the cat out of the bag, I don’t like it at all. I really thought I would but I don’t. I much prefer the bare steel. It does give depth to the detailed areas but it just looks dirty to me. It’s too black on the rough castings. I love blued steel when it’s a nice polished finish and gets that slick, blue look. But this ain’t that…

I appreciate the opinions and I’m surprised everyone likes it. I can’t believe 100% of you are wrong.

;-)) Kidding of course. I’m probably the one that’s wrong. But it’s my plane! Nanny-nanny-boo-boo :-)

-- Kenny, SW VA, Go Hokies!!!

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HokieKen

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#9 posted 01-25-2019 05:01 PM



UUMMMM … is this 1 coat ? did you heat it up in oven first ? does not look that much different to me :<(((

- GR8HUNTER

Focus on the stippled areas behind the letters Tony and compare that to the stippled area behind the flowers next to it.

-- Kenny, SW VA, Go Hokies!!!

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#10 posted 01-25-2019 06:04 PM

Kenny – I’m glad to hear you admit you are wrong. The rest of us have known that for a long time. There are support groups that can help. This might be the time for an intervention. ;+p

-- Earl "I'm a pessamist - generally that increases the chance that things will turn out better than expected"

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#11 posted 01-25-2019 08:14 PM

Hey Ken, Is your OCD bothering you again :). If your like me, I like everything perfect, new and shiny. It is probably an antique, so I would leave it looking as such. It adds to the character (gulp) and making it look pretty, will not make it do its intended use any better. Have fun and as my wife tells me “you think to much”. Love ya and take care.

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HokieKen

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#12 posted 01-25-2019 08:37 PM

I wallow in my wrongness Earl. Intervene all you want but I’m as stubborn as I am stupid ;-)

My OCD bothers me nonstop Oldschool ;-) Not 1/2 as bad as it bothers my wife sometimes though! From type studies, this plane (type 7) was made sometime between 1896 and 1902 most likely. So it’s definitely an antique! I don’t want it to look “new”, I want to preserve the scars it’s earned over the last century plus. But, I also want to slap a pretty dress and some lipstick on it ;-)

-- Kenny, SW VA, Go Hokies!!!

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#13 posted 01-26-2019 01:30 AM

All I have to say is….I told you so.

-- Dave - http://kelleycrafts.com/ - pen blanks - knife scales - turning tools

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#14 posted 01-26-2019 03:35 AM



All I have to say is….I told you so.

- KelleyCrafts

I don’t know who you are or what you’re talking about.

-- Kenny, SW VA, Go Hokies!!!

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