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Blog entry by Eric posted 06-13-2022 01:43 AM 663 reads 0 times favorited 14 comments Add to Favorites Watch
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Just finished up a project, and needed a box to house a set in. This is basically an afternoon project with exception of applying the finish.

Started out with a piece of Oak 1/4” x 2-1/2” x 48” I needed a box 7” x 13-1/2” this worked well. I decided to wrap the grain around the box.

Cut the sides to length needed, layout the finger joints and groves. Over to the table saw, set up the stacked dado, and used the finger joint jig I build a while back. Cut all my finger (on the boards). Set the fence while dado stack was still installed and cut the groves for the top an bottom.

Removed the dado stack and set the normal blade to cut a grove to create a lip once the box top is to be cut off. Then I cut 2 pieces of 1/4” Maple plywood to fit into the groves.

Everything fits as it should. Took time to sand the interior and panels prior to gluing. Next up glue the box together. Square checks out once clamped up.

Let it sit for a bit, removed the clamps. Sanded down the ends of the fingers, (I make them a tad bit proud). Also sanded the sides, had to remove some pencil marks.

Next up was to cut the box open, adjusted the table saw fence to cut halfway through just under the grove which is on the inside. This is how I create a small lip on the edge of the lower section of the box. The grove on the inside creates the rabet on the top. I now have a box with a removable lid.

I then sanded the cut edges removing the fuzziness, and a little more on the lower section for a good fit. A friction fit is to tight, so it needed to be just a tad smaller. Good fit.

I had a few holes in the finger joint that needed to be filled (dado cuts will do that, but faster than the router), I had some thin oak strips, with a little trimming, worked great as plugs. Glued them in place pared the bulk off, sanded flush. Then the exterior was sanded to 220.

I applied 1 coat of Danish Oil this evening. I add a few more over the next few days then wax an buff.

Thanks for reading, and comments welcome.

-- Eric, building the dream. the "Loft"



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Dave Polaschek

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#1 posted 06-13-2022 01:49 AM

Ahh. It took me reading it twice to figure out how you were doing the lip. Cut on the inside before assembling the box. Clever trick!

Looks like it’ll be a nice addition to the set that’s going in it.

-- Dave - Santa Fe

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Eric

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#2 posted 06-13-2022 02:00 AM

Thanks Dave. It’s a little trick I learned some years back. The only catch is, you need to know exactly where that grove is on the inside. Off a tad bit you lose it.

But that is the best way to build a box, for matching grain and having a good fit for the lid. At least that I have found.

-- Eric, building the dream. the "Loft"

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MrWolfe

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#3 posted 06-13-2022 02:12 AM

Cool build and blog post.
Its great to see the moxon being used.
Great job.

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Dave Polaschek

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#4 posted 06-13-2022 02:25 AM

Yeah. I’m not sure if that would work with my method of sawing goes apart with a backsaw. I suspect it would want to follow that groove, but now that I have a table saw, maybe I’ll give that a try. The other trick I use on boxes is resawing a board in half, then using the inside of the board as the outside of the box, so I get grain wrapping around all four sides. It’s a neat trick if you can pull it off, especially if there are some wild features in the grain.

-- Dave - Santa Fe

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pottz

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#5 posted 06-13-2022 02:38 AM

lookin great buddy !

-- working with my hands is a joy,it gives me a sense of fulfillment,somthing so many seek and so few find.-SAM MALOOF.

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crowie

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#6 posted 06-13-2022 08:38 AM

So very clean and neat craftsmanship Eric.

-- Lifes good, Enjoy each new day...... Cheers from "On Top DownUnder" Crowie

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Eric

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#7 posted 06-13-2022 10:10 AM

MrWolf, thanks. Yes, that Moxon has been very handy.

Dave, I have done resawing before, I need a better bandsaw before I tackle that again. To much waste using the table saw. The last boxes I made I used a small straight bit in the router table to cut it apart, that works well too.

Pottz, thanks.

Peter, thanks. When I post it has to be clean.

-- Eric, building the dream. the "Loft"

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EarlS

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#8 posted 06-13-2022 11:04 AM

You have been busy in the shop; tools, a moxon vise mini bench, boxes. Most days I’m lucky to get 1/4 of the work done that I planned to do.

-- Earl "I'm a pessamist - generally that increases the chance that things will turn out better than expected"

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Eric

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#9 posted 06-13-2022 11:35 AM

Earl, that is my relaxing time, and I usually have a few different projects going on at the same time. I go out for a tad bit over an hour after dinner. Sometimes I can squeeze in some time early in the morning.

-- Eric, building the dream. the "Loft"

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splintergroup

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#10 posted 06-13-2022 02:22 PM

Dang Eric, seem like you switched your brain to automatic mode with this one. No hesitation, just run through the steps like a machine and git-r-done!

I’d have at least several screw-ups to fix 8^)

I always over think on the dados that get exposed on the long boards, stopped router cuts are ok, but I hate doing them. Your wood plugs are quick and simple!

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Jim Jakosh

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#11 posted 06-13-2022 02:52 PM

Great box..very strong joints!!

Cheers, Jim

-- Jim Jakosh.....Practical Wood Products...........Learn something new every day!! Variety is the Spice of Life!!

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James E McIntyre

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#12 posted 06-13-2022 03:32 PM

Looks like a great box and your technique is spot on.

I know what you mean when you said the dado blades really wack your wood and chip out those fingers.

I had the same experience. I’m buying the infinity 1/4” and 5.5mm flat top blades.

When you cut the box open on the table saw do you shim and tape the opposite side to allow for the blade kerf so the box doesn’t cave in on it self when cutting the last side?

-- James E McIntyre

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Eric

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#13 posted 06-13-2022 03:43 PM

Splinter, thank you. Yes I flew through this one, of course I layout all my cuts first.

Jim, thank you. Yes, strong joints, reason I could the excess the same afternoon.

James, thank you. When I cut the box, I’ll cut both long edges, take them, then cut the shirt edges.

-- Eric, building the dream. the "Loft"

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Eric

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#14 posted 06-14-2022 01:01 AM

Thank you to all who have made a comment, very appreciated. And with that being said, off to make more.

Back out to the shop tonight. 3rd coat of Danish Oil on the box. Decided to make 3 more. Cut sides to length, laid out all the cuts needed prior to assembly. Have all that milled up. Next I’ll fine tune the fingers and cut the panels.

And the makers mark.

-- Eric, building the dream. the "Loft"

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