Getting my tools ready #13: What is the difference between the delta model 40-650 and the model 40-650 type 2?

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Blog entry by DocSavage45 posted 03-05-2014 05:58 PM 6625 reads 0 times favorited 8 comments Add to Favorites Watch
« Part 12: Small steps forward Part 13 of Getting my tools ready series Part 14: How do I get the best out of an OLD DELTA 40-650 Type I? Need experienced advice! »

I just had the Good Fortune or Misfortune of purchasing a Delta 18 inch Model 40-650 scroll saw with table. I realize this is an OLD Scroll saw. The price was about what I might pay for the stand at retail. The man I purchased it from was a genuine guy. Had to drive an hour there and as it turns out 2.5 hours back in a blizzard! LOL!

Could have purchased a new one. Yet I am impressed with this older saw. It had been sitting for awhile as it is his wife’s tool and she bought a larger throat Craftsman commercial scroll saw.

Good thing I asked “does it cut wood?” The demonstration was a disaster. turns out the lower clamping device was re installed backwards. The Delta manual that came with the saw sucks in that area. I thought Harbor Freight was bad. LOL! We spent a couple of hours attempting to get it aligned and holding a pinless blade. Wife came home and said”The lower clamp is in backwards.”

Got it together, It cut a full piece of wood and I disassembled it cause I’m a woosie ( smarter though) these days. By the time I got home it was in a blizzard on the major highway travelling at 30 mph with blinkers going while idiots (truley) in their 4 wheel drives were going by. I learned in my 2500 CK with plow that 4 WHEEL DOESN’T KEEP YOU ON THE ROAD BUT IT IS GREAT FOR GETTING YOU BACK ON IT! ( don’t ask how I know)

The question of this blog is “How is my older version, and a later Type 2 different as it is not obvious from the manuals. I downloaded the Type 2 manual and parts list for comparison. I Googled this question but “Nothing!”

Soooo I am again looking for knowledge and wisdom to guide me as I want to clean up and tune up my newest Old tool.

As always I appreciate your guidance in areas I am not familiar. ( If I hadn’t watched him reassemble and test the mechanism 5 times I would have been truly frustrated!)

The saw is in the car and there is 12 inches of snow I have to shovel so I can take pictures, but I want to start finding information.

-- Cau Haus Designs, Thomas J. Tieffenbacher

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#1 posted 03-05-2014 06:35 PM

Dunno, but I just had to tell you that this story was much more entertaining than those of the supposedtobeentertainers… So thanks for sharing. :-D

-- What are those few hours of mine compared to those decades Mother Nature has put in it!

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#2 posted 03-05-2014 07:02 PM

I have the older saw, got it the first year it came out and still use it today. The Type 2 main changes are instant start, no more hesitation when you turn the switch on. The nuts on the blade clamps have been changed to a thumbnut that doesn’t need a wrench to adjust. And the threaded rod that was in the way of the bottom clamp on the left side is now gone. The tension lever setup has been changed to a new flip lever, a lot nicer to use, plus eliminated a lot of the cluttered look at the front of the arm. This new tension setup will fit onto the original Q3 arm.

-- It seem's to me i could live my life, a lot better than i think i am. Andrew, Midland, Ont.

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#3 posted 03-05-2014 08:09 PM


The story is part of the journey? Thanks! :-)

-- Cau Haus Designs, Thomas J. Tieffenbacher

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#4 posted 03-05-2014 08:13 PM


Like your avatar…. :-)

Been looking at e-parts and Mikes. Downloaded the Type 2 manual and parts lis. I have to get this saw unloaded but I’d like to get your guidance. :-) To make it as easy and efficient as possible.


-- Cau Haus Designs, Thomas J. Tieffenbacher

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#5 posted 03-05-2014 08:53 PM

Those are the type of things that happen to me. Makes life more interesting. Hope your weather clears up.

-- Nature created it, I just assemble it.

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#6 posted 03-05-2014 09:18 PM


LOL! you could use a little boredom? I’m sort of like Pigpen in the Penuts series. Usually have a cloud around me! Going to be 40 degrees tomorrow! And I can unplug the electrical heaters in my vehicles as it won’t be -10 degrees!

-- Cau Haus Designs, Thomas J. Tieffenbacher

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#7 posted 03-06-2014 11:42 PM

I bet you will always remember when you purchased this saw

-- Norman - I never never make a mistake, I just change the design.

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#8 posted 03-07-2014 12:55 AM


You Betcha! Started taking it apart today after watching a You Tube video on rehabbing a Dewalt. Not to much similarity but it keeps me thinking in the right direction.


-- Cau Haus Designs, Thomas J. Tieffenbacher

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