Tool Restorations #5: Picador Pup Fig 777 for Model Makers?????

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Blog entry by BigFoot Products Canada posted 10-10-2012 11:58 AM 14178 reads 0 times favorited 6 comments Add to Favorites Watch
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I was wondering if anyone could give me some more information on this
Picador Pup Fig 777 combination machine 1940’s or 50’s era..I just bought today.
It’s Made in ENGLAND and is a miniature machine .. kind of looks like a knock off of the ShopSmith
only on a miniature scale..
Anyhow.. these are the pics of what I bought.. This machine is still in it’s original box
and has never been assembled. It’s 100% complete.. nothing missing at all..

I bought it because I thought it was cool.. I never intend on using it.
What do you think? Would you set it up or just leave it in the box??

Any info would be appreciated..
I posted this before on a FORUM and got no responses.. so I thought I’d try here on a BLOG.


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#1 posted 10-10-2012 12:48 PM

David thats very cool !
If I had the space I would set it up, but also try it out, looks
like it would be a very handy thingie.

-- Glen, B.C. Canada

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#2 posted 10-10-2012 12:58 PM

Hi Glen,
I agree it looks really cool… I just wish I could find out some more info on it??
Everyone I talk to has never seen or even heard of one.. and the internet has been no help??
I probably will set it up and just display it.. and KEEP the original box of course.
They must be RARE???

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#3 posted 02-22-2014 11:24 PM

Well, you certainly have got a rarity there. And I can give you some information about the Picador Pup.
I was owner and director of Picador Engineering from about 2004 for about 2 years.It was a very large engineering company from the 1920´s where it was based in London. Unfortunately, there were a lot of gaps in the archive. I do know that it moved to Birmingham (England) in the 40´sor 50´s. At one point it was a major competitor to Draper tools. The Pup itself was primarily designed for engineering hobbyists to manufacture all sorts of things for model engineering projects.
It certainly wasn´t a knockoff of the Shopsmith.
During my spell at Picador (by now in Scunthorpe, Lincolnshire.) we had virtually all of the components of the Pup in stock, or we had the moulds to get them produced. These moulds still exist, even though the company has been defunct for about 6 years. It also used to supply aluminium grooved pulleys for all walks of engineering.
To be honest, we bought the company whilst it was heavily in debt for £1, and, although we never made much of a profit we managed to bring the debt down. Unfortunately chinese competition meant that we could not compete in a cutthroat market, and ultimately the company Picador went bankrupt. HOWEVER, that is not completely the end of the story. A lot of stock made its way to a garage in Grimsby England. wher it probably still resides to this day. And the moulds are all in storage, awaiting the day when Britain becomes Great again. :-). If you google you will see a lot of Picador products for sale, and the proprietor, Andy Brooks, may just know a bit more than I do. Hope this is of some help to you.

p.s. It was built to be used, and i often see them for sale on ebay uk,. We always had a steady stream of customers enquiring whether we still had components for it. Even after 50 years they are still going strong.
So my advice would be to set it up and use it if you have a use for it, otherwise i’m sure that Andy would be interested in acquiring it (if it is for sale)

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#4 posted 02-22-2014 11:50 PM

I was thinking that most of the time when someone finds these “miniature” items (they might be tools, machines, or anything) a lot of times they were salesmen’s displays and samples. Small, working replicas of whatever they were selling.

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#5 posted 04-21-2016 09:31 PM

Hello David, as far as I know, these machines were produced by a now defunct British engineering company as an experiment to see if they could attract hobbyists and toy makers who wanted a budget-priced machine that they could set up in conjunction with a motor salvaged from e.g. an old washing machine. It was not too accurate and could only handle small projects.

I had one for many years and did make quite a few small items. Sadly it got lost during one of my house moves. I still miss it, even though its functionality has long since been overtaken by more modern machines.

I would be interested to know if you ever got to set yours up.

Best regards

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#6 posted 01-12-2017 05:43 PM

Cadillackid (Colin) I have tried looking for abc engineering, but no luck!
I have just inherited what I think is a Picador Wood Lathe….the only place it has the name is on the tailstock spindle adjuster.
I am brand new to wood turning and can’t wait to get going, and would love an instruction book or more info on my particular lathe.
I am watching endless videos on You tube at the moment!
I have also discovered I am missing the drive centre for the headstock (must be back in my dad’s shed still) are replacements easy to source?
I hope you,or any other knowledgable people can help…....

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