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Respect For Others

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In this community members are expected to treat each other with respect at all times.

There will always be disagreements and fusses between members. It is simply human nature. We truly encourage members to discuss and openly share their thoughts on a topic. It is how we all learn and life would be pretty boring if we all felt the same way.

That being said, this is not grade school. We don't gang up in little groups to take sides or encourage others to do the same.

If you were at a local get together and got into a disagreement with someone, I am guessing you would take it outside instead of ruining the party for everyone. I expect the same here.

If you are not able to discuss a topic respectfully then you need to remove yourself from the topic. If you are unable to discuss a topic with a specific member then you need to choose to ignore that member or take the discussion off the boards. If you are unable to do either of these things, I will help you to do so.

- Cricket
 

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Respect For Others

Table Hand Computer Furniture Personal computer


In this community members are expected to treat each other with respect at all times.

There will always be disagreements and fusses between members. It is simply human nature. We truly encourage members to discuss and openly share their thoughts on a topic. It is how we all learn and life would be pretty boring if we all felt the same way.

That being said, this is not grade school. We don't gang up in little groups to take sides or encourage others to do the same.

If you were at a local get together and got into a disagreement with someone, I am guessing you would take it outside instead of ruining the party for everyone. I expect the same here.

If you are not able to discuss a topic respectfully then you need to remove yourself from the topic. If you are unable to discuss a topic with a specific member then you need to choose to ignore that member or take the discussion off the boards. If you are unable to do either of these things, I will help you to do so.

- Cricket
What did I miss?
 

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#28 ·
Respect For Others

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In this community members are expected to treat each other with respect at all times.

There will always be disagreements and fusses between members. It is simply human nature. We truly encourage members to discuss and openly share their thoughts on a topic. It is how we all learn and life would be pretty boring if we all felt the same way.

That being said, this is not grade school. We don't gang up in little groups to take sides or encourage others to do the same.

If you were at a local get together and got into a disagreement with someone, I am guessing you would take it outside instead of ruining the party for everyone. I expect the same here.

If you are not able to discuss a topic respectfully then you need to remove yourself from the topic. If you are unable to discuss a topic with a specific member then you need to choose to ignore that member or take the discussion off the boards. If you are unable to do either of these things, I will help you to do so.

- Cricket
"Thanks for closing that thread"- LakeLover
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#29 ·
Respect For Others

Table Hand Computer Furniture Personal computer


In this community members are expected to treat each other with respect at all times.

There will always be disagreements and fusses between members. It is simply human nature. We truly encourage members to discuss and openly share their thoughts on a topic. It is how we all learn and life would be pretty boring if we all felt the same way.

That being said, this is not grade school. We don't gang up in little groups to take sides or encourage others to do the same.

If you were at a local get together and got into a disagreement with someone, I am guessing you would take it outside instead of ruining the party for everyone. I expect the same here.

If you are not able to discuss a topic respectfully then you need to remove yourself from the topic. If you are unable to discuss a topic with a specific member then you need to choose to ignore that member or take the discussion off the boards. If you are unable to do either of these things, I will help you to do so.

- Cricket
What did I miss?

- gargey
Absolutely Nothing!
 

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#30 ·
Respect For Others

Table Hand Computer Furniture Personal computer


In this community members are expected to treat each other with respect at all times.

There will always be disagreements and fusses between members. It is simply human nature. We truly encourage members to discuss and openly share their thoughts on a topic. It is how we all learn and life would be pretty boring if we all felt the same way.

That being said, this is not grade school. We don't gang up in little groups to take sides or encourage others to do the same.

If you were at a local get together and got into a disagreement with someone, I am guessing you would take it outside instead of ruining the party for everyone. I expect the same here.

If you are not able to discuss a topic respectfully then you need to remove yourself from the topic. If you are unable to discuss a topic with a specific member then you need to choose to ignore that member or take the discussion off the boards. If you are unable to do either of these things, I will help you to do so.

- Cricket
Think of this



- a1Jim
YES! Great Song! Great Singer, Great Musical Message! Thanks Jim!

Regards: Rick
 

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#31 ·
Respect For Others

Table Hand Computer Furniture Personal computer


In this community members are expected to treat each other with respect at all times.

There will always be disagreements and fusses between members. It is simply human nature. We truly encourage members to discuss and openly share their thoughts on a topic. It is how we all learn and life would be pretty boring if we all felt the same way.

That being said, this is not grade school. We don't gang up in little groups to take sides or encourage others to do the same.

If you were at a local get together and got into a disagreement with someone, I am guessing you would take it outside instead of ruining the party for everyone. I expect the same here.

If you are not able to discuss a topic respectfully then you need to remove yourself from the topic. If you are unable to discuss a topic with a specific member then you need to choose to ignore that member or take the discussion off the boards. If you are unable to do either of these things, I will help you to do so.

- Cricket
Wonderful thread and a great message. All of the comments are right on. One aspect of this has not been specifically mentioned. Making discussions personal. I can have respectful differences with someone on technical issues all day long, but I draw the line when it gets personal. We are communicating using a written medium and lack the benefits of vocal cues, body language, etc. So, I'm suggesting that we take that into consideration when we write. We can't totally know one another strictly from the written word. Let's not assume we do.
 

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#32 ·
Fine Line of Inflammatory Topics

I think it is important that we take a moment to make sure our members understand where the fine line is between an open discussion vs. an inflammatory topic that may trigger hate type debates.

As an example, it is perfectly okay to have discussions concerning racism as a whole (in the off topic area) and how that has an impact on society. When it comes down to it, more often than not, communication is the key to finding solutions to many of the social issues in our lives today.

HOWEVER, it is not okay to have discussions which attack groups of people as a whole, incite hate, or uses personal opinion as fact to open a discussion.

For instance, we would not start a thread like this one . . .

Why Do Purple People Hate, Kill, and Eat Green People?

Why don't we open topics in this manner?

(1) If you are assuming that all purple people, hate, kill, and eat green people based on one purple person (or a group of radical purple people) doing those things then that is not a fact for discussion. It's simply your personal bias concerning purple people.

(2) Because hate topics rarely do anything about actually finding solutions. They only increase the hate and further decrease communication.

Does that mean we are limiting your right to free speech?

Nope! You are 100% free to stand on the street corner and say whatever you want about what you believe. That is between you and your local law enforcement. You can write anything you want on your own website. That's between you and your hosting company and perhaps Homeland Security.

But here in the community, the owners of LumberJocks and I get to choose where that line is drawn.

"Be the change you want to see in the world." Mahatma Gandi
 
#33 ·
©Poem/Publishing Rights - David William Bethune SOCAN/BMI

"Who Really Won"

I Think It's Time We Took A Second Look
At Our Reflection In The Mirror
And Have A Silent Conversation
About Why We're Really Here

We All Entered In The Same Way
And We All Leave Through The Same Door
We All Brought Nothing With Us
And Won't Leave With Nothing More

What Do We Gain From Hate And Greed
What Are The Benefits Of War
We Know We Reap The Seeds We Sow
So What Do We Do It For

Why Not Try To Treat Each Other
With Respect And Dignity
Quit Judging One Another
Live In Peace And Harmony

Why Keep Heading Down The Same Road
Why Not Learn From Our Mistakes
Why Not Just Care About Each Other
Is That Not Really All It Takes

When This Journeys Finally Over
When It's All Said And Done
Who Really Won? Who Really Won?
Who Really Won?
 
#52 ·
Community Rules

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DISCLAIMER: The content on LumberJocks.com includes information and activities where the potential of serious injury or death exists. LumberJocks.com does not guarantee the accuracy or completeness of any information contained on this site. Please always use the proper safety equipment and safety precautions before attempting any woodworking procedure.

The following is a list of basic rules about what is and is not allowed while posting on our site. These rules are in addition to what is listed in our Terms Of Service. Please read through all of these sections before using our site and contact us if you have questions.

1. You may only use one account on this forum. No exceptions. If you have issues with your account or need help changing your username, password, email, etc. you can contact us.

2. Users shall treat each other with respect at all times on LumberJocks.com. Ideas and opinions may be challenged, but name calling, personal attacks, or other inappropriate behavior will not be allowed and may cause your account to be banned. Harassment will not be tolerated in this community. This includes private messages, Facebook and/or social media and user emails.

  • Users shall not question or debate an administrator decision publicly on the message board. In the event of a disagreement or questioning of an administrator's decision or action users should contact the administrator via PM or our contact us form. Blocking the site admin (Cricket) will result in your member account being closed.

  • Users shall not question or debate another member's qualifications publicly on the message board. Instead, any questionable posts should be flagged.

3. Discriminatory remarks of any sort will not be tolerated. This includes degrading and/or offensive remarks about an individual or a group of individuals based on their race, color, ethnicity, sex, sexuality, age, nationality, religious affiliation, or indeed any other basis.

4. Do not disclose private information about members without their consent (e.g. names, contact details, pictures, details about personal life, etc. - this includes private messages, Facebook, email and social media in part.)

5. Do not post messages on behalf of banned members. They are banned for a reason. Doing so will result in a ban for the poster who is conveying the message, and an increase in the ban length for the poster who is sending the message.

6. Member signatures shall be appropriate, both in content and in size. No excessively obscene or rude language/content is allowed, nor may you use it to harm, harass or insult fellow members or to spread messages which are generally forbidden. If necessary, we reserve the right to delete or edit members' signatures at any time.

7. Advertising your company or website is not allowed on this site. If you want to share your company or site information and URL, please use your profile and signature. If you want to advertise on LumberJocks.com please use our contact us form for additional information.

8. No adult rated material, links to adult rated material, or any form of nudity may be posted on this site. In addition to nudity, all forms of sexual content (images, jokes, etc…) are prohibited from being posted on the site. This includes images of scantily clad men or women. Please help us keep this site family friendly.

9. Profanity shall be kept to a minimum; abuse of this rule will result in a warning up to and including a permanent ban.

10. You may only post material and content that you own. Posting copyrighted material, trademarks, and other violations of the DMCA is prohibited.

Any violation of these rules will result in a warning up to and including a permanent ban. Please help us keep this site user friendly and flag any instances of rule violations.

These rules may be altered at anytime without notice so please check this page often. Thanks.
 

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#53 ·
Community Rules

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DISCLAIMER: The content on LumberJocks.com includes information and activities where the potential of serious injury or death exists. LumberJocks.com does not guarantee the accuracy or completeness of any information contained on this site. Please always use the proper safety equipment and safety precautions before attempting any woodworking procedure.

The following is a list of basic rules about what is and is not allowed while posting on our site. These rules are in addition to what is listed in our Terms Of Service. Please read through all of these sections before using our site and contact us if you have questions.

1. You may only use one account on this forum. No exceptions. If you have issues with your account or need help changing your username, password, email, etc. you can contact us.

2. Users shall treat each other with respect at all times on LumberJocks.com. Ideas and opinions may be challenged, but name calling, personal attacks, or other inappropriate behavior will not be allowed and may cause your account to be banned. Harassment will not be tolerated in this community. This includes private messages, Facebook and/or social media and user emails.

  • Users shall not question or debate an administrator decision publicly on the message board. In the event of a disagreement or questioning of an administrator's decision or action users should contact the administrator via PM or our contact us form. Blocking the site admin (Cricket) will result in your member account being closed.

  • Users shall not question or debate another member's qualifications publicly on the message board. Instead, any questionable posts should be flagged.

3. Discriminatory remarks of any sort will not be tolerated. This includes degrading and/or offensive remarks about an individual or a group of individuals based on their race, color, ethnicity, sex, sexuality, age, nationality, religious affiliation, or indeed any other basis.

4. Do not disclose private information about members without their consent (e.g. names, contact details, pictures, details about personal life, etc. - this includes private messages, Facebook, email and social media in part.)

5. Do not post messages on behalf of banned members. They are banned for a reason. Doing so will result in a ban for the poster who is conveying the message, and an increase in the ban length for the poster who is sending the message.

6. Member signatures shall be appropriate, both in content and in size. No excessively obscene or rude language/content is allowed, nor may you use it to harm, harass or insult fellow members or to spread messages which are generally forbidden. If necessary, we reserve the right to delete or edit members' signatures at any time.

7. Advertising your company or website is not allowed on this site. If you want to share your company or site information and URL, please use your profile and signature. If you want to advertise on LumberJocks.com please use our contact us form for additional information.

8. No adult rated material, links to adult rated material, or any form of nudity may be posted on this site. In addition to nudity, all forms of sexual content (images, jokes, etc…) are prohibited from being posted on the site. This includes images of scantily clad men or women. Please help us keep this site family friendly.

9. Profanity shall be kept to a minimum; abuse of this rule will result in a warning up to and including a permanent ban.

10. You may only post material and content that you own. Posting copyrighted material, trademarks, and other violations of the DMCA is prohibited.

Any violation of these rules will result in a warning up to and including a permanent ban. Please help us keep this site user friendly and flag any instances of rule violations.

These rules may be altered at anytime without notice so please check this page often. Thanks.
Cricket: You didn't say whether it would be OK to take a knee during the playing of our National Anthem. :>)
 

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#208 ·
Basic Forum Navigation

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When you click on the forums tab in navigation, by default, it will display all the recent topics, regardless of which forum they are located in. You can see the forum off to the side.

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If you want to start a new topic though, it may be easier to see all of the forums and descriptions so that you can choose the most relevant forum to start your discussion.

Within the forums navigation, simply click on "Show all forums".

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This will allow you to see all the forum categories.
 

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#209 ·
Basic Forum Navigation

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When you click on the forums tab in navigation, by default, it will display all the recent topics, regardless of which forum they are located in. You can see the forum off to the side.

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If you want to start a new topic though, it may be easier to see all of the forums and descriptions so that you can choose the most relevant forum to start your discussion.

Within the forums navigation, simply click on "Show all forums".

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This will allow you to see all the forum categories.
Thank you
 

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#218 ·
How To Change Your Email Address and Password

Assuming you are already logged into the site, and you would like to change your password or email address, you would first navigate to your account by clicking on "MyLumberJocks" near the upper right hand corner of the community and scrolling down to "My Home".

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Clicking on "My Home" will bring you to your profile and account settings.

Click on "Edit account settings".

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When the new page opens, your information will be be filled in. If you simply want to change your email address, fill in the new email address and click "Save changes".

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Keep in mind that the new email address with then become what you use to login to the site.

If you want to change your password, click on "change password" on that same screen.

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Again your basic information will already be filled in. Simply add your new password and then add it a second time to verify. Make sure to save your changes.

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If you are unable to login to make these changes because you have forgotten your password, you will need to go to reset your password by having one sent to you.

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If you no longer have access to the email address that you used to register to the site, you will need to contact us for further assistance.
 

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#219 ·
How To Change Your Email Address and Password

Assuming you are already logged into the site, and you would like to change your password or email address, you would first navigate to your account by clicking on "MyLumberJocks" near the upper right hand corner of the community and scrolling down to "My Home".

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Clicking on "My Home" will bring you to your profile and account settings.

Click on "Edit account settings".

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When the new page opens, your information will be be filled in. If you simply want to change your email address, fill in the new email address and click "Save changes".

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Keep in mind that the new email address with then become what you use to login to the site.

If you want to change your password, click on "change password" on that same screen.

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Again your basic information will already be filled in. Simply add your new password and then add it a second time to verify. Make sure to save your changes.

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If you are unable to login to make these changes because you have forgotten your password, you will need to go to reset your password by having one sent to you.

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If you no longer have access to the email address that you used to register to the site, you will need to contact us for further assistance.
Thanks.
 

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#224 ·
How To Flag (Report) A Post

No matter how amazing our spam prevention is, now and then a spammer gets through. When you see a spammer, you can click on the flag, next to their post to alert me.

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When you click to flag a post you will see a drop down menu. In this case, (spam) select the spam option.

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Another option (especially when it is a spammer posting multiple times) is to contact me via PM or via the contact us button near the bottom of the site.

Starting threads about the spammer doesn't speed up the removal of the spammer. Responding to the spammer actually makes my job a bit more difficult because I have to find and manually remove those posts too.

If you see a bunch of posts by a single spammer, you only need to flag one of them and then contact me. It helps me tremendously when you provide me with the username of the spammer if you use email or private messages to alert me.

Flagging a post can also be used to report offensive or abusive posts, and also obvious violations of LumberJocks.com rules. Flagging posts should never be done in a malicious manner just because you don't like someone or their comments.

In those cases where the post you are reporting is the first one in a thread, the flag link option can be found in the lower right hand corner, below the post.

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#225 ·
How To Flag (Report) A Post

No matter how amazing our spam prevention is, now and then a spammer gets through. When you see a spammer, you can click on the flag, next to their post to alert me.

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When you click to flag a post you will see a drop down menu. In this case, (spam) select the spam option.

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Another option (especially when it is a spammer posting multiple times) is to contact me via PM or via the contact us button near the bottom of the site.

Starting threads about the spammer doesn't speed up the removal of the spammer. Responding to the spammer actually makes my job a bit more difficult because I have to find and manually remove those posts too.

If you see a bunch of posts by a single spammer, you only need to flag one of them and then contact me. It helps me tremendously when you provide me with the username of the spammer if you use email or private messages to alert me.

Flagging a post can also be used to report offensive or abusive posts, and also obvious violations of LumberJocks.com rules. Flagging posts should never be done in a malicious manner just because you don't like someone or their comments.

In those cases where the post you are reporting is the first one in a thread, the flag link option can be found in the lower right hand corner, below the post.

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Thanks.
 

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#241 ·
Uploading Images

I personally recommend uploading your images directly to LumberJocks so that you don't have to worry about 3rd party hosting companies suddenly blocking access to your images.

Step 1
Click the img button.

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Step 2
Click the "Choose File" button.

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Step 3
Browse your computer for the image you want to add. Click on it then select "open".

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Step 4
Click "Insert this image". The code for the image will be added to your post.

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Step 5
Preview your post for typos and to be sure your image displays the way you want.

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You are now ready to post your entry.

I recommend saving your original images on your computer so you always have a backup.
 

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#242 ·
Uploading Images

I personally recommend uploading your images directly to LumberJocks so that you don't have to worry about 3rd party hosting companies suddenly blocking access to your images.

Step 1
Click the img button.

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Step 2
Click the "Choose File" button.

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Step 3
Browse your computer for the image you want to add. Click on it then select "open".

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Step 4
Click "Insert this image". The code for the image will be added to your post.

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Step 5
Preview your post for typos and to be sure your image displays the way you want.

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You are now ready to post your entry.

I recommend saving your original images on your computer so you always have a backup.
Since I am not "cloud friendly"i load everything from my phone. Photobucket never worked well for me.
 

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#273 ·
When We Disagree

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We all have different opinions. That's real life.

Can you imagine how boring things would be if we all agreed on everything?

I encourage open discussions. It is how we all learn.

That being said, woodworking isn't an angry debate, even when we disagree.

When a member asks a question, the odds are very good that there will be a wide range of answers, some of which may be the complete opposite of what you believe. When we see a post (in the responses) that we don't agree with, it is not up to us to prove why their response is right or wrong, or why we think our response it better. Doing so will only confuse the original point of the discussion. Sometimes there is no right or wrong answer. It is up to the original poster to determine which response makes the most sense to them.

Treat each other with respect.

- Cricket

Respect For Others
 

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#274 ·
When We Disagree

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We all have different opinions. That's real life.

Can you imagine how boring things would be if we all agreed on everything?

I encourage open discussions. It is how we all learn.

That being said, woodworking isn't an angry debate, even when we disagree.

When a member asks a question, the odds are very good that there will be a wide range of answers, some of which may be the complete opposite of what you believe. When we see a post (in the responses) that we don't agree with, it is not up to us to prove why their response is right or wrong, or why we think our response it better. Doing so will only confuse the original point of the discussion. Sometimes there is no right or wrong answer. It is up to the original poster to determine which response makes the most sense to them.

Treat each other with respect.

- Cricket

Respect For Others
Very well written!

I have noticed on this and several other forums, the lack of personal interaction will allow people to to become incredibly disrespectful toward one another where such behavior in a face to face conversation would be almost unheard of (hopefully) for the same people. It's a sad truth that the security of anonymity can cause the worse to come out in some people. I have notice elsewhere and here especially the problems stem often from the same common denominator(s). I've seen this in most of the threads where you have had to intervene or outright close the conversation to the detriment of all due to the behavior of just a few.
 

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#312 ·
How To Disable Email Notifications

Step 1
Click on the drop-down menu near your avatar in the upper right-hand corner of the site, select "my home".

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Step 2
On the left side of your profile page, click on "edit email notifications".

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Step 3
Remove all checkmarks and click to save your preferences.

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Added Notes: Do not use this discussion to chat or report spam. This is only a tutorial for those needing instructions regarding how to disable email notifications.
 

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#313 ·
How To Disable Email Notifications

Step 1
Click on the drop-down menu near your avatar in the upper right-hand corner of the site, select "my home".

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Step 2
On the left side of your profile page, click on "edit email notifications".

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Step 3
Remove all checkmarks and click to save your preferences.

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Added Notes: Do not use this discussion to chat or report spam. This is only a tutorial for those needing instructions regarding how to disable email notifications.
BUT I want to know when ALL my "friends" post! Both of them:)
 

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