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09-25-2008 08:54 PM

Topic tags/keywords: resource

This is very compelling science with some very credible scientists for a change.

You will need to dedicate an hour of your time.

Makes you wonder if certain forces aren’t trying to push us off the planet?


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#1 posted 09-26-2008 01:51 AM

“Last month, at a forum in Melbourne, eminent scientists expressed their concerns about the doco. Australian of the Year Tim Flannery even wondered whether it should be classified as fiction rather than a documentary.”

“The problem with The Great Global Warming Swindle, which caused a sensation when it was broadcast on Channel 4 last week, is that to make its case it relies not on future visionaries, but on people whose findings have already been proved wrong. The implications could not be graver.”

wikipedia The Great Global Warming Swindle.”

Real Climate The Great Global Warming Swindle

How to Talk to a Climate Sceptic

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#2 posted 09-26-2008 03:12 AM

Bob, by now you should be familiar with the posting rules. This just isn’t the place for politics.

-- Happy woodworking!

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#3 posted 09-26-2008 04:38 AM

I’m afriad you lost me here Blake?

Perhaps you’re a bit myopic ?


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#4 posted 09-26-2008 05:25 AM

Blake, I can’t see why we can’t home some political discussions, once in awhile, as long as people treat each other decent. I like LJ because it’s a bunch of guys around my age and circumstance, and I like to toss the ball around with politics once in a while.

My take on the global warming thing: I’m not certain (like some) that we are causing it, but I don’t think it’s a bad thing to move on to renewable or cleaner burning energies.

-- Have a blessed day!

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#5 posted 09-26-2008 05:43 AM

I agree with Blake. This is woodworking related site. Politics belongs elsewhere.

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#6 posted 09-26-2008 05:51 AM

I gotta agree w/ Blake, this is a woodworking site. There are plenty of sites dedicated to general discussion or politics. It’s just not this site.

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#7 posted 09-26-2008 06:13 AM

So tell me my learned fellows, shall we burn our scientists at the stake as they did in the dark ages?

I have to agree with you now that when a topic cannot be recognized as scientific and is referred to as “political” that is is probably misappropriated information.

In hindsight I wish I had not broached the subject here.

Rest assured it will not happen again.


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#8 posted 09-26-2008 07:16 AM

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#9 posted 09-26-2008 07:22 AM

I was under the impression that the coffee lounge was for off topic discussions… Sorry, I just posted a question about finding a Toyota dealer in Fresno. Or does this specifically relate to political discussions?

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#10 posted 09-26-2008 04:34 PM


My impression is that it has less to do with whether the topic is actually political or religious or off the topic of woodworking and more to do with whether the topic has the potential to be “controversial”.

I’ve seen many postings on welding and beautiful days and it’s my birthday and it’s my anniversary and I’ve got 5000 posts and etc. Not much to do with woodworking in those posts.

It’s too hard to say “controversial” posts are prohibited, who would define controversial? Since political and religious topics have a high probability of becoming heated it’s easier to ban those.

I don’t particularly have a problem with controversial topics. I’m usually up for a heated discussion with any number of crazies from all sides of the issue. But this is Martin’s house and he has set the rules for polite guests. While the rules say no political or religious topics I interpret the real meaning to be “no controversial topics not directly related to woodworking”. I’m sure we are allowed to argue to merits of hide glues vs pva, but not argue the merits of any particular political party, religion, scientific discovery, or other off topic controversy. Everybody plays nice and no off topic controversy.

That doesn’t mean people on this board are hiding from the truth or embracing ignorance, it means that on this board Martin has asked to limit off topic controversy. There are hundreds, thousands, more ?? political, religious, scientific, and conspiracy theory oriented discussion boards. We go to those boards for lively heated opinionated discussions, we come to LJ to talk about woodworking and the occasional it’s my birthday/anniversary post.

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#11 posted 09-26-2008 04:57 PM

I haven’t explored the links about global warming and I’m not about to start discussing it but I am in agreement and somewhat concerned about posting things too far from the woodworking realm. I’ve seen some really great sites that tanked in a matter of months because someone started a flamewar about an off topic topic ( does that make sense). I think we’re all capable of discussing almost anything in a calm matter, its the fanatics that concern me and can make Martin’s life miserable. I’m all for discussion in the appropriate forum. Now I’ll get off my soap box (I will point out the beautiful hand cut dovetails holding this soap box together and the elegant stain and lustreous finish :-)

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#12 posted 09-26-2008 05:06 PM

Interesting that you have such a deep understanding of the intent of the Coffee lounge and the intent of my posting.
It’s painfully obvious that your neither read the guideline for the coffee lounge posting nor did you bother to view the link I provided.
I took the liberty of posting same just above your most recent diatribe.

It would seem that it is important to you to have the last word and to be seen as being right.

Perhaps if you would post more of your woodworking projects along with some decent photos rather than critiquing the odd posting that fails to meet with your standards we would not be having this discussion.


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#13 posted 09-26-2008 05:12 PM

Bob #2 I have to say that there’s nothing wrong with you posting this thread. Had you posted it in another section on this site it would have been different. But, I am actually sitting here with coffee reading through things, and woodworking is what I’m about to do afterwords. When people whine and cry about every post, every thread, every view point, it makes it very difficult to believe that this country really has freedoms. You have the freedom to say what you want so long as it doesn’t effect someone else. Well, everything effects me, I just don’t want to live my life thinking that everyone needs to keep their mojo to themselves.
If you don’t like what Bob #2 is posting here, move on and don’t read it. It’s not for you. Thanks Bob #2 for sharing.

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#14 posted 09-26-2008 06:13 PM

and thus begins the decent…...

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#15 posted 09-26-2008 07:18 PM

I’m for another ice age…it slows down lumber growth and makes excellent hardwoods….

Bring on Global Cooling!!!!

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